Lippische Zieglerfamilie Brockmann

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Liebe Listenleser !

Seit einigen Jahren suche ich Nachfahren des Johann Töns Brockmann, der 1811 als Ziegler aus dem Lipperland nach Oldenburg kam. Die Familie verteilt sich danach auf den Raum Oldenburg/Hude/Ganderkesee/Osternburg/Wardenburg. Bisher habe ich 64 Nachfahren des Johann Töns Brockmann gefunden. Leider habe ich allerdings einige Geburten in unterschiedlichen Generationen der Familie, wo mir bisher der Verbleib dieser Kinder unklar ist.
Wem sind also folgende Personen möglicherweise schon einmal in die Hände gefallen ?

5 (3) Anne Catharine Brockmann

* 30.03.1813 in Bornhorst, getauft 02.04.1813 in Oldenburg

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Hi there:

I wish I could speak German!!!
I just read through your list and you mention:

Gesche Margarethe Haye (1845)

My grandmother was: Magdalena Mathilde Henriette Haye
(1-2-1872-20-2-1918). She married Ernst Hermann
Gl�scher.
Her father was: Friedrich August Haye (1843-1893)
Olldenburg
Her mother was: Gretje Mathilde Maas
Her brothers and sisters were: Grete Haye married to
Karl Stint, Mathilde Haye, Julius Haye and Friedrich
Haye - and I have a photo of them all taken in 1836 in
Oberhammelwarden (wherever that may be).
I also have photos of my grandmother, grandfather and
even of my great grandmother

Please do you think there is any relation? Could you
please answer in English or Spanish? Thank you for
all your help.

Silvia Gl�scher
silsegers@yahoo.com.ar

  --- Frank Speckmann <frank.speckmann1@ewetel.net>
escribi�:

Liebe Listenleser !

Seit einigen Jahren suche ich Nachfahren des Johann
T�ns Brockmann, der 1811 als Ziegler aus dem
Lipperland nach Oldenburg kam. Die Familie verteilt
sich danach auf den Raum
Oldenburg/Hude/Ganderkesee/Osternburg/Wardenburg.
Bisher habe ich 64 Nachfahren des Johann T�ns
Brockmann gefunden. Leider habe ich allerdings
einige Geburten in unterschiedlichen Generationen
der Familie, wo mir bisher der Verbleib dieser
Kinder unklar ist.
Wem sind also folgende Personen m�glicherweise schon
einmal in die H�nde gefallen ?

5 (3) Anne Catharine Brockmann

* 30.03.1813 in Bornhorst, getauft 02.04.1813 in
Oldenburg

+

9 (7) Helene Gesine Brockmann

* 24.02.1872 in Oberlethe, getauft 02.06.1872 in
Wardenburg

+

14( 13) Margarethe Marie Christine Helene Brockmann

* 1874/1877 Osternburg

+

15 (13) Johann Helene Hermine Brockmann

* 23.10.1877 in Osternburg, getauft 09.12.1877 in
Osternburg

+

16( 13) Friedrich August Johann Brockmann

* 13.10.1882 in Osternburg, getauft 05.12.1882 in
Osternburg

+ ging nach Petersfehn !

17 (13) Gesche Helene Auguste Sophie Brockmann

* 11.03.1886 in Oldenburg, getauft 27.05.1886 in
Oldenburg

+

24 (23) Martha Elsa Brockmann

* 27.01.1882 in Varel, getauft 22.05.1885 in Varel

+

25 ( 23) Nikolaus Friedrich Peter Brockmann, B�cker
in Varel

* 18.07.1886 in Eversten, getauft 19.07.1886 in
Eversten

+

oo 21.02.1919 in Oldenburg

Anna Helene Marie Hillie

* 10.01.1887 in B�rgerfelde, getauft 20.01.1887 in
B�rgerfelde

+

26 (6) Heinrich Christian Georg Friedrich Brockmann

* 02.11.1859 in Hude, getauft 26.12.1859 in Hude

+ wohnt 1927 in Minneapolis/USA, war 1882 Kellner
f�r 4 Jahre in Paris und London

27 (6) Gesine Helene Christine Brockmann

* 17.11.1863 in Hude, getauft 01.03.1863 in Hude

+ wohnt nach 1927 in Delmenhorst

oo

Reinhard Gloystein

*

+

28 (3) Helene Catharine Brockmann

* 30.09.1816 in Blohm getauft 06.10.1816 in
Oldenburg

+

oo 16.11.1841 in Ganderkesee

Hinrich Pape

*

+

29 (3) Johann Oltmann Brockmann

* 25.12.1817 in Eversten, getauft 01.01.1818 in
Eversten

+ 26.02.1879 in Huder-Klostermoor

I oo 14.05.1845 in Hude

Gesche Margarethe Haye

*

+

II oo

Catharine Marie Havekost

* 30.04.1829

+ 21.10.1882, begraben 26.10.1882

30 (29) Anna Catharine Brockmann

* 30.11.1846 in Hude

+

32 (29) Hermann Hinrich Gerhard Brockmann

* 24.02.1850 in Hude, getauft 10.03.1850 in Hude

+

34 (29) Ernst Friedrich Bernhard Brockmann

* 28.12. 1857 in Hude, getauft 24.01.1858 in Hude

+

35 (29) Emma Sophie Dorothea Mathilde Brockmann

* 20.07.1860 in Hude, getauft 26.08.1860 in Hude

+

36 (29) Anna Sophie Brockmann

* 26.05.1863 in Hude, getauft 12.07.1863 in Hude

+

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Dear Silvia

You got yourself a computer and you have internet - obviously.
While using a search engine you could easily find Oberhammelwarden. So its not like - "wherever that may be".
Because - with all due respect - if you want to search for ancestors in such a way - you reach nowhere.
I also do not understand what you mean with "is there any relation". Relation with what, please?

F.y.g. What you are looking for, is a small country village 6 km south of Brake, Wesermarsch, Oldenburg Co.at the Weser River.
The name Haye is similar to Sanchez in Mar del Plata in Argentina. If you know what I mean. Since your village's administration is handled by Brake 'Einwohner Meldeamt' I would advise you to search for this address and contact the person in charge by phone. Email is no good. Even English might be a problem.
More info you'll get in Oldenburg, being City of the Province at the 'Nieders�chsisches Staatsarchiv' phone +49-441-9244100.
Don't expect to get the right answer instantly. Their rule is: 'If you want something, come here'. But they will help you for sure.

Much success
Adde

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Dear Adde:

I already know where Oberhammelwarden is. Thank you
for your help. I will try the phone number you sent
me.

Yours,

Silvia --- Adde <adstabel@pandora.be> escribi�:

Dear Silvia

You got yourself a computer and you have internet -
obviously.
While using a search engine you could easily find
Oberhammelwarden. So its
not like - "wherever that may be".
Because - with all due respect - if you want to
search for ancestors in such
a way - you reach nowhere.
I also do not understand what you mean with "is
there any relation".
Relation with what, please?

F.y.g. What you are looking for, is a small country
village 6 km south of
Brake, Wesermarsch, Oldenburg Co.at the Weser River.
The name Haye is similar to Sanchez in Mar del Plata
in Argentina. If you
know what I mean. Since your village's
administration is handled by Brake
'Einwohner Meldeamt' I would advise you to search
for this address and
contact the person in charge by phone. Email is no
good. Even English might
be a problem.
More info you'll get in Oldenburg, being City of the
Province at the
'Nieders�chsisches Staatsarchiv' phone
+49-441-9244100.
Don't expect to get the right answer instantly.
Their rule is: 'If you want
something, come here'. But they will help you for
sure.

Much success
Adde

From: "silvia segers" <silsegers@yahoo.com.ar>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l@genealogy.net>;
<silsegers@yahoo.com.ar>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Lippische Zieglerfamilie Brockmann
- HAYE

> Hi there:
>
> I wish I could speak German!!!
> I just read through your list and you mention:
>
> Gesche Margarethe Haye (1845)
>
> My grandmother was: Magdalena Mathilde Henriette
Haye
> (1-2-1872-20-2-1918). She married Ernst Hermann
> Gl�scher.
> Her father was: Friedrich August Haye (1843-1893)
> Olldenburg
> Her mother was: Gretje Mathilde Maas
> Her brothers and sisters were: Grete Haye married
to
> Karl Stint, Mathilde Haye, Julius Haye and
Friedrich
> Haye - and I have a photo of them all taken in
1836 in
> Oberhammelwarden (wherever that may be).
> I also have photos of my grandmother, grandfather
and
> even of my great grandmother
>
> Please do you think there is any relation? Could
you
> please answer in English or Spanish? Thank you
for
> all your help.
>
> Silvia Gl�scher
> silsegers@yahoo.com.ar
>
> --- Frank Speckmann <frank.speckmann1@ewetel.net>
> escribi�:
>> Liebe Listenleser !
>>
>> Seit einigen Jahren suche ich Nachfahren des
Johann
>> T�ns Brockmann, der 1811 als Ziegler aus dem
>> Lipperland nach Oldenburg kam. Die Familie
verteilt
>> sich danach auf den Raum
>> Oldenburg/Hude/Ganderkesee/Osternburg/Wardenburg.
>> Bisher habe ich 64 Nachfahren des Johann T�ns
>> Brockmann gefunden. Leider habe ich allerdings
>> einige Geburten in unterschiedlichen Generationen
>> der Familie, wo mir bisher der Verbleib dieser
>> Kinder unklar ist.
>> Wem sind also folgende Personen m�glicherweise
schon
>> einmal in die H�nde gefallen ?
>>
>> 5 (3) Anne Catharine Brockmann
>>
>> * 30.03.1813 in Bornhorst, getauft 02.04.1813 in
>> Oldenburg
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>>
>> 9 (7) Helene Gesine Brockmann
>>
>> * 24.02.1872 in Oberlethe, getauft 02.06.1872 in
>> Wardenburg
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>>
>> 14( 13) Margarethe Marie Christine Helene
Brockmann
>>
>> * 1874/1877 Osternburg
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>>
>> 15 (13) Johann Helene Hermine Brockmann
>>
>> * 23.10.1877 in Osternburg, getauft 09.12.1877 in
>> Osternburg
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>>
>> 16( 13) Friedrich August Johann Brockmann
>>
>> * 13.10.1882 in Osternburg, getauft 05.12.1882 in
>> Osternburg
>>
>> + ging nach Petersfehn !
>>
>>
>>
>> 17 (13) Gesche Helene Auguste Sophie Brockmann
>>
>> * 11.03.1886 in Oldenburg, getauft 27.05.1886 in
>> Oldenburg
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>>
>> 24 (23) Martha Elsa Brockmann
>>
>> * 27.01.1882 in Varel, getauft 22.05.1885 in
Varel
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>>
>> 25 ( 23) Nikolaus Friedrich Peter Brockmann,
B�cker
>> in Varel
>>
>> * 18.07.1886 in Eversten, getauft 19.07.1886 in
>> Eversten
>>
>> +
>>
>> oo 21.02.1919 in Oldenburg
>>
>> Anna Helene Marie Hillie
>>
>> * 10.01.1887 in B�rgerfelde, getauft 20.01.1887
in
>> B�rgerfelde
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>>
>> 26 (6) Heinrich Christian Georg Friedrich
Brockmann
>>
>> * 02.11.1859 in Hude, getauft 26.12.1859 in Hude
>>
>> + wohnt 1927 in Minneapolis/USA, war 1882 Kellner
>> f�r 4 Jahre in Paris und London
>>
>>
>>
>> 27 (6) Gesine Helene Christine Brockmann
>>
>> * 17.11.1863 in Hude, getauft 01.03.1863 in Hude
>>
>> + wohnt nach 1927 in Delmenhorst
>>

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