I am looking for my g-g grandfather born in Germany ca. 1829-1849. His son William Thomas Kielhorn (found in 1880 Census as an Orphan) was born in Illinois in 1869 ( d.1913 IN) (buried IL) married an Ella Pence born 1876 Illinois (d.1929 NY). They were married 1894 Gallatin Co. IL. Oral history is the family came from Kiel, Germany. I know the family tree from 1869 to present but can't trace family back to Germany because I don't know his first name. Name could have been spelled Keilhorn or Von K.... I am seeking somebody you has a family tree of Kielhorn or Pence that could help.
Thank You
Howard Banney
Have you checked out;
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ 214 entries for Kielhorn
Hello Howard,
You have quite the challenge with your Kielhorn family.
There are 319 names of Kielhorn today In Germany. There are 2436 names
with the name of Kiel in Germany. However, I would guess that it would be
more likely to change the name from Kielhorn to Kiel in the USA. - not the
other way around. See where the name is in Germany today:
Geogen Deutschland (Onlinedienst) - christoph.stoepel.net
Is this a possible scenario for the family - no?
Gratis Stammbaum, Genealogie, Familiengeschichte und DNA-Test
I know the William name there does not coincide with your William born
in 1869.
Have you ever looked at the archive pages for Hannover? Here's the
address: http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/
You fill in a name or names in the little box. There are many Kielhorns
listed. There is a Heinrich Friedrich Kielhorn there. He is going to
America in Nov. 1866. He is from the town of Dedenhausen. There are other
Kielhorn names connected with Dedenhausen.
There is a shiplist which lists a August Kielhorn age 29 on ISTG Bark
Johanne Marie which comes from Germany and arrives in New York 27 Nov 1867.
There are no other family names listed.
Also, there is this on Castle Garden, Heinrich Kielhorn (age 30) with
wife Elisa (age 33) Elisa 11, Maria 8, Wilhelm 8, Amelia 4. They arrived to
the USA on 21 May 1881. Ship De Ruyter.
In the 1900 census records there is a Henry Keilhorn listed as born in
1847 and arrived to the USA in 1880. Different spelling.
Census of 1860 there are 4 guys listed as August age 25, Christ 36 ,
Henry 29, William 33 They are living in Cannelton Indiana.
In 1870 August is in the same place age 35 wife Johanna, Henry,
Christian, Annie. The rest are not listed. Maybe the other guys moved.
In 1880, there is a Mary Kielhorn (born in Missouri age 22) as a cousin
in the Wernse(sp?)Family. In St Louis. Also your William in the German
Protestant Orphanage.
You may want to look at the records from that Orphanage. Look here:
http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/greenwood.htm
See this:
(This volume lists the name of the resident, the date of entry, the age,
birth place and by whom placed.) That may tell you what you need. I hope you
can find the information there.
Good luck to you!
Barbara
I am looking for my g-g grandfather born in Germany ca. 1829-1849. His son
Hello Howard,
How certain are you that William Thomas Kielhorn was born in Illinois in 1869?
I say that because on the 1870 census of Cannelton (Perry Co.) Southern
Indiana, I found the following family:
KIELHORN, William, 40, coal miner, from Hannover
..........Sophie, 31, from Prussia
..........Mena (short for Wilhelmine), 8 b. in Indiana
..........August 7, b. in Indiana
..........Ann 5, b. in Indiana
..........William 10 months, born in August, in Indiana.
The latter seems to be the only child by the name of William born to the
KIELHORN brothers in 1869.
Ten years prior, in 1860, there were 4 KIELHORN families from Hannover who
settled in Cannelton (Troy Township) in the 1850s, including what appears
to be the mother of these men, Sarah KIELHORN, age 62, from Hannover.
Here are the KIELHORN (KEILHORN) families living in the same
neighborhood in 1860, including William b. about 1840, still unmarried and
living with his mother:
KEILHORN, Christ. 36, Merchant, b. Hannover
..........Adolphene, 35, b. Hannover
..........Henry, 9 b. Indiana
..........Christ. 7, b. Indiana
..........Anna, 1 b. Indiana
WALL, Madalene, 50 b. Prussia (possibly mother-in-law)
KIELHORN, William 33,(age?) miner, from Hannover; still unmarried;
..........Sara, 62, from Hannover
KEILHORN, Henry, 29, Clerk, b. Germany
..........Louisa 33, b. Hannover
..........Mary, 3, b. Missouri
..........Hellen, 2 b. Missouri
KEILHORN, August, 25, Barber, b. Hannover
..........Johanna, 22, b. Prussia
WOHLMAN, Wm., 18, Shoemaker, b. Prussia (living with them)
The connection to Gallatin Co. Illlinois can be explained with a move by
the family to work in the coal mines in Southern Illinois. Both William
and his wife Sophia KIELHORN as well as Christian and wife Adolphene
KIELHORN must have died between 1870 and 1880. On the 1880 census,
Christian Kielhorn (b. 1853), son of Christian, has taken over the hardware
store of his father in Cannelton, IN.
You believe that the KIELHORNs place of origin was Kiel. That's not
possible since Kiel is located in Schleswig-Holstein - not in Hannover.
However, we may have come a bit closer to the place of origin:
While perusing the immigration records I stumbled upon the US passport
application of August KIELHORN, who in July 1899 applied for a passport to
visit the homeland with his (second?)wife, Margaret born in Antrim, Ireland
on 24 Jan 1841 and their daughter Mary Isabel Kielhorn born in Richmond
(Wayne Co.) Indiana;
On the application August stated that he was born 31 July 1835 in
Marienrode, Hannover (near Hildesheim). He also stated that he emigrated to
the United States, sailing on board the ship ERNESTINE from Bremen on or
about 10 April 1856; he resided from 1878 to 1899 in Richmond, Indiana.
He said that he was naturalized as a citizen of the US before the Common
Pleas Court in Perry County, Indiana at Cannelton on 18 May 1870.
(I believe I saw where William Kielhorn was naturalized about the same time).
If you're interested I can email the passport application to you.
I checked the passenger lists for New York, Baltimore, New Orleans and
Philadelphia but did not find the ship ERNESTINE as having sailed to any of
these ports in 1856.
The only passenger ship list found so far is that of a H. (Henry?)
KIELHORN, who immigrated from Hamburg on the ship Nord America arriving on
10 June 1852.
Best of luck with your research,
Ursula.
According to the 1860 census for
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