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[1]German Names - Behind the Name
Listing German forenames and their meanings.
MaryJane. UK
>From: "Cactus Flower" <barbie8674@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
>To: hannover-l@genealogy.net
>Subject: Re: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
>
>Dear Falk,
>
>Thanks you very much for the infromation. Definately makes sense
>that John derived from Johannes.
>
>I had always just read and assumed the name Johan/Johann.Johannes as
>John.
>
>Did Heinrich also refer to the name Johannes? I had always assumed
>the Heinrich as Henry.
>
>I did notice that in the U.S. catholic records (1860's+) in my
>family that there are instances when a couple of sons are names
>Johan (something) (something) and usually they seemed to go by the
>second given name, the first being a baptismal name???
>
>Noticed in most cases at least one of the names were of the
>baptismal sponser. Perhaps a custom to some families?
>
>Barbie
>
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>>From: FalkLiebe@t-online.de
>>Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
>>To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
>>Subject: Re: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
>>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:12:04 +0200
>>
>>Dear Barbie,
>>
>>Rather the other way round:
>>
>>John is derived out of greek-latin Johannes,
>>the Hebrew form was Jochanan with a stress over the last a,
>>meaning: God is merciful,
>>referring to St. John Baptist (refer to Matthew s gospel 11, v.
>>11),
>>all the baptismal chapel were dedicated to him
>>
>>Many shortforms/nicknames bear proof that towards the
>>end of the Medieval area Johannes was one of the most common of all
>>church-inspired baptismal names
>>(as in the Grimm-collected Hans & Grete fairy tale)
>>until then it was Hinz (Heinrich) and Kunz (Conrad)
>>(quote: Hans Bahlow, Deutsches Namenlexikon, Suhrkamp Taschenbuch
>>Verlag 1972,
>>p. 265)
>>
>>Sincerely yours
>>
>>Falk Liebezeit
>>Diepholz
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:01:38 +0200
>> > Subject: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
>> > From: "Cactus Flower" <barbie8674@hotmail.com>
>> > To: hannover-l@genealogy.net
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have been of the idea that Johannes was a Latin word for John.
>> >
>> > Of course I agree that Hans derives from Johan. I think the
>>name
>> > Judicus also is later name from similar roots.
>> >
>> > Barbie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: KarlheinzSteimel@t-online.de (Karlheinz Steimel)
>> > > Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
>> > > To: hannover-l@genealogy.net
>> > > Subject: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
>> > > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:01:34 +0200
>> > >
>> > > The name Hans was rarely used in the 18th century. Actually
>>the name
>> > > normally is
>> > > Johannes. Johann is the earliest simplification, Hannes was
>>common
>> > > somewhat later, and Hans rarely was used before the 20th
>>century. So
>> > > Hans is the latest
>> > > Name variation of Johannes. Today these names exist in
>>parallel. I
>> > > have a 7 year
>> > > old grandson Johannes and my brother has a 6 year old grandson
>> > > Johann.
>> > >
>> > > Greetings from Cologne, the 2000 year old city on the river
>>Rhine,
>> > > where today
>> > > you find thousends of prsons by the names Johannes, Johann,
>>Hannes
>> > > and Hans.
>> > >
>> > > Karlheinz Steimel
>> > >
>> > > Lady Bonita (USA) schrieb:
>> > >
>> > > > Fred,
>> > > >
>> > > > ok ... does that mean that I should or should not add
>>'Johann' as
>> > > > a name variation when the given name is listed as 'Hans'?
>>Most of
>> > > > these are in
>> > > the
>> > > > 18th century or earlier .. in Germany (Prussia, Kingdom of
>> > > > Hanover,
>> > > Possen,
>> > > > etc.)
>> > > >
>> > > > Bonita
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > From: "Fred Rump" <FredRump@earthlink.net>
>> > > > To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
>> > > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:55 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Question:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Is Hans the same as Johann for a man's christian name?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yes. It is an abbreviation of sorts which became a whole
>> > > > > new name.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Fred
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Kind Regards,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Bonita Hillmer
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