Hans = johann?

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   MaryJane. UK
   >From: "Cactus Flower" <barbie8674@hotmail.com>
   >Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
   >To: hannover-l@genealogy.net
   >Subject: Re: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
   >
   >Dear Falk,
   >
   >Thanks you very much for the infromation. Definately makes sense
   >that John derived from Johannes.
   >
   >I had always just read and assumed the name Johan/Johann.Johannes as
   >John.
   >
   >Did Heinrich also refer to the name Johannes? I had always assumed
   >the Heinrich as Henry.
   >
   >I did notice that in the U.S. catholic records (1860's+) in my
   >family that there are instances when a couple of sons are names
   >Johan (something) (something) and usually they seemed to go by the
   >second given name, the first being a baptismal name???
   >
   >Noticed in most cases at least one of the names were of the
   >baptismal sponser. Perhaps a custom to some families?
   >
   >Barbie
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >>From: FalkLiebe@t-online.de
   >>Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
   >>To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
   >>Subject: Re: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
   >>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:12:04 +0200
   >>
   >>Dear Barbie,
   >>
   >>Rather the other way round:
   >>
   >>John is derived out of greek-latin Johannes,
   >>the Hebrew form was Jochanan with a stress over the last a,
   >>meaning: God is merciful,
   >>referring to St. John Baptist (refer to Matthew s gospel 11, v.
   >>11),
   >>all the baptismal chapel were dedicated to him
   >>
   >>Many shortforms/nicknames bear proof that towards the
   >>end of the Medieval area Johannes was one of the most common of all
   >>church-inspired baptismal names
   >>(as in the Grimm-collected Hans & Grete fairy tale)
   >>until then it was Hinz (Heinrich) and Kunz (Conrad)
   >>(quote: Hans Bahlow, Deutsches Namenlexikon, Suhrkamp Taschenbuch
   >>Verlag 1972,
   >>p. 265)
   >>
   >>Sincerely yours
   >>
   >>Falk Liebezeit
   >>Diepholz
   >>
   >> > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:01:38 +0200
   >> > Subject: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
   >> > From: "Cactus Flower" <barbie8674@hotmail.com>
   >> > To: hannover-l@genealogy.net
   >>
   >> > Hello,
   >> >
   >> > I have been of the idea that Johannes was a Latin word for John.
   >> >
   >> > Of course I agree that Hans derives from Johan. I think the
   >>name
   >> > Judicus also is later name from similar roots.
   >> >
   >> > Barbie
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
   >> > > From: KarlheinzSteimel@t-online.de (Karlheinz Steimel)
   >> > > Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
   >> > > To: hannover-l@genealogy.net
   >> > > Subject: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
   >> > > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:01:34 +0200
   >> > >
   >> > > The name Hans was rarely used in the 18th century. Actually
   >>the name
   >> > > normally is
   >> > > Johannes. Johann is the earliest simplification, Hannes was
   >>common
   >> > > somewhat later, and Hans rarely was used before the 20th
   >>century. So
   >> > > Hans is the latest
   >> > > Name variation of Johannes. Today these names exist in
   >>parallel. I
   >> > > have a 7 year
   >> > > old grandson Johannes and my brother has a 6 year old grandson
   >> > > Johann.
   >> > >
   >> > > Greetings from Cologne, the 2000 year old city on the river
   >>Rhine,
   >> > > where today
   >> > > you find thousends of prsons by the names Johannes, Johann,
   >>Hannes
   >> > > and Hans.
   >> > >
   >> > > Karlheinz Steimel
   >> > >
   >> > > Lady Bonita (USA) schrieb:
   >> > >
   >> > > > Fred,
   >> > > >
   >> > > > ok ... does that mean that I should or should not add
   >>'Johann' as
   >> > > > a name variation when the given name is listed as 'Hans'?
   >>Most of
   >> > > > these are in
   >> > > the
   >> > > > 18th century or earlier .. in Germany (Prussia, Kingdom of
   >> > > > Hanover,
   >> > > Possen,
   >> > > > etc.)
   >> > > >
   >> > > > Bonita
   >> > > >
   >> > > >
   >> > > > From: "Fred Rump" <FredRump@earthlink.net>
   >> > > > To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
   >> > > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:55 PM
   >> > > > Subject: Re: [HN] HANS = JOHANN ??
   >> > > >
   >> > > >
   >> > > > >
   >> > > > > > Question:
   >> > > > > >
   >> > > > > > Is Hans the same as Johann for a man's christian name?
   >> > > > >
   >> > > > > Yes. It is an abbreviation of sorts which became a whole
   >> > > > > new name.
   >> > > > >
   >> > > > > Fred
   >> > > > >
   >> > > > >
   >> > > > > >
   >> > > > > > Kind Regards,
   >> > > > > >
   >> > > > > > Bonita Hillmer
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