Dörry und Schiffslisten / Heuerlisten - Ergänzung

famnord
1

Hallo Schiffskundige,

zu meiner vorigen Mail noch eine weitere Frage:
Unter welchen Reedereien k�nnten die beiden Schiffe gefahren sein.
Wild Wood: evtl. Ost-Indien-Linie ?
Calima: welche Reederei fuhr nach San Franzisko ?

W�rde mich �ber eine Antwort freuen.

Mir liegen Kopien der Umschl�ge eines Briefwechsels von Helgoland nach San Franzisko bzw. verschiedenen Schiffen vor.

Es handelt sich einmal um die P.M.S.S. Calima:
Die genaue Anschrift auf dem Briefumschlag vom 13. Febr. 1880 lautet:
Mr. Henry D�rry
Care of First and Brassen Str.
Carpenter on Bord P.M.S.S. Calima,
San Franzisko, Californien.

Der zweite Umschlag ist vom 22. Februar 1874: Hier lautet die Anschrift:
Mr. H. T. D�rry,
Carpenter on board the ship "Wild Wood"
Care of the American Consul
Shangai, China

Wo k�nnte ich denn Schiffslisten bzw. Heuerlisten der Schiffe finden ?

Freundliche Gr��e
Rainer [D�rry]

2

Hallo Herr D�rry,

die Abk�rzung S.S. deutet auf einen Dampfer (=Steam Ship).

MP k�nnte MAIL POST hei�en, kenne ich aber nur in Verbindung mit RMS =
Royal Mail Ship und dann der Schiffsname.

In den einschl�gigen Verzeichnissen sind die gesuchten Namen der Schiffe
nicht verzeichnet!

Ist eine eine Interpretation des Schiffsnamens m�glich?

Maritime Gr��e,
J�rg (Kiel)

3

Moin Alle,
PMSS steht für "Pacific Mail Steam Ship"
gefunden bei "acronymgeek.com"
Beste Grüße
Rolf

4

Hallo,
allen, die mir mit Ratschlägen geantwortet haben, hier ein recht herzliches Dankeschön. Zwar bin ich bisher noch nicht fündig geworden, aber etliche neue Wege sind mir aufgezeigt worden.
Freundliche Grüße
Rainer [Dörry]

5

Hi-

I hope someone can translate as necessary.
Ancestry.com has a data base with California ship arrivals and this may
include the crew of the Wild Wood or the Calima.
The California newspaper database has a reference to the "Wildwood' in a
typhoon in China though after the date desired.

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cdnc/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&cl=search&d=DAC18750912.2.9&srpos=76&e=-------en-Logical-20--61-byDA---"wild+wood"-all---

Newspaperarchive.com has a reference to the carpenter on the Wild Wood in
Shanghai in 1872 but this is only available by subscription.
North China Herald - July 13, 1872, Shanghai,
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...Gungner scuffling I saw the carpenter of the *Wild Wood* separate I took
no part in... ...commenced between prisoner and the...part
in... ...commenced between prisoner and the carpenter on board the *Wild
Wood* about what the Dane had... ...short time in that The carpenter...
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carpenter said he would quiet and keep him oft I did... ...I...
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...went to the Gungner and *Wild Wood* the same and arrested the prisoner
and had the knife... ...he...the prisoner and had the knife... ...he wanted
to fight the carpenter after he came back to his STRIP LIXG said
prisoner... ...carriages...to his STRIP LIXG said prisoner... ...carriages
were and as the carpenter did not return he finished the He afterwards went
off... ...finding...

The Wild Wood was built in Port Madison in 1871.

The Mystic Seaport register shows the Wild Wood

The Steamer Calima is listed as arriving in San Francisco August 11 1877
from Panama.

The ship Wildwood was reported at Burrard Inlet (Vancouver), Jan 3rd 1873
for Shanghae. - The San Francisco Chronicle of Mar 16 1873.

The ship Wild Wood, an American ship from Burrard's Inlet arrived in
Melbourne on 13 Apr 1873.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5852059?searchTerm="wild+wood".
The Wild Wood then arrived in Newcastle on 30 May 1873. The Wild Wood sailed
from Sydney on 7 August 1873.

The Wild Wood arrived in San Francisco on October 4th

On 15 Oct 1873 the "Wildwood" was reported discharging coal on Jackson
Street Wharf in San Francisco from Sydney. Daily Alta California

Maybe some of this information will help your search.

Regards Rhonda