I think it is highly regrettable that there are people on this list, who search for professional genealogists, place an order and who finally do not settle the bill. These clients are being served with dedication and effort, and just take it for granted, but would not always get that much service elsewhere. And afterwards, they try to find some very flimsy reasons to avoid
compensating the genealogist for the expenses or the time that was spent on the search.
All of this happened recently, there was a person who searched for ancestors in Groß Berkel who acted this way.
Qualified people who work as genealogists, historians or information brokers or related tasks need to trust their business/ research parters that contracts are kept and that both parties can rely on each other. Perhaps, for a few people, the sum of $550 more or less on the bank account may be a matter of "peanuts", but this same sum can be the one that saves a
freelance historian from going bankrupt.
What made me write the lines you have just read was not a feeling of revenge or anything of that sort. Far from it. But I wanted to motivate the abovementioned person, a president of a large international firm, either to give valid reasons for his refusal to pay or to settle the bill which I sent him on 9. September 2002.
Yours sincerely
Christoph Haupt
PS: I know that this is off-topic and hope that listmembers will understand that the circumstances are forcing me to take this step.
A deal is a deal...
If you can't do the work yourself, and you have requested the work to be
done, then pay the BILL! Or at Christmas time, when you brag about a-l-l the
WONDERFUL information that you found, and those around you give you such
praise and sit in AWE of you, remember that you have been sneaky and cheated
someone else of the funds that you owe!
Remember it.
The bill is due, it has been due, and you are late..
Sounds like INTEREST on the original amount is due!
FURTHER, it is people who do not pay their bills that make it hard for
people like me to gain the services of a researcher far from home.
Please do not compound our problems of distance with problems of distrust!
Pay the bill!
valentine
PS..Now I have not gone back to see exactly WHO was searching for
Gro� Berkel residence..I would prefer not to know, but if CHaupt doesn't get
his mulla, then we will just have to search our memories.won''t we?
I would like to add that I would have no problem if the person who did
the research and was cheated out of agreed upon funds to publish the
name of the person who refused to pay his just bills.
A person does this sort of act harms all who use the internet for
research.
Guten Tag lieber "Freund",
f�r den Fall, Du w�rdest pl�tzlich auch meinen, kein Englisch mehr
verstehen zu k�nnen, wie Du offensichtlich meinst Deine erbetenen
Leistungen nicht bezahlen zu m�ssen, so werde ich "einfach mal Deutsch
mit Dir reden".
Hast Du nicht gemerkt wie freundlich, offen und vor allem hilfsbereit
die [HN]-Listers sind? Tue ihnen wie Dir getan wird und vor allem:
ZAHLE DEINE RECHNUNG!
Noch h�lt sich die Reaktion von Christoph, Valentin und Thomas in
vornehmen Genzen, aber richtig ist was Thomas schreibt:
Wir w�rden es ertragen wenn Ross und Reiter genannt w�rden - aber Du?
weshalb findet eigentlich in der Hannover-Liste der Schriftwechsel fast
ausschlie�lich in Englisch statt?
Freundliche Gr��e
Birgit Ruth Becker
Wetzlar-Dutenhofen
CHaupt schrieb:
Dear listmembers,
I think it is highly regrettable that there are people on this list, who search
for professional genealogists, place an order and who finally do not settle the
bill. These clients are being served with dedication and effort, and just take it
for granted, but would not always get that much service elsewhere. And
afterwards, they try to find some very flimsy reasons to avoid
compensating the genealogist for the expenses or the time that was spent on the
search.
All of this happened recently, there was a person who searched for ancestors in
Gro� Berkel who acted this way.
Qualified people who work as genealogists, historians or information brokers or
related tasks need to trust their business/ research parters that contracts are
kept and that both parties can rely on each other. Perhaps, for a few people, the
sum of $550 more or less on the bank account may be a matter of "peanuts", but
this same sum can be the one that saves a
freelance historian from going bankrupt.
What made me write the lines you have just read was not a feeling of revenge or
anything of that sort. Far from it. But I wanted to motivate the abovementioned
person, a president of a large international firm, either to give valid reasons
for his refusal to pay or to settle the bill which I sent him on 9. September
2002.
Yours sincerely
Christoph Haupt
PS: I know that this is off-topic and hope that listmembers will understand that
the circumstances are forcing me to take this step.
weshalb findet eigentlich in der Hannover-Liste der Schriftwechsel fast
ausschlie�lich in Englisch statt?
Ich halte es f�r puren Zufall, da� in letzter Zeit eher englische
e-Mails �ber diese Liste gelaufen sind. Die Liste ist prinzipiell
zweisprachig, d.h. sowohl englische als auch deutsche Anfragen und
Antworten sind gerne gesehen.
Es mag auch daran liegen, da� mehr Deutsche englisch k�nnen als
umgekehrt, und daher weniger Probleme haben, auch in der fremden
Sprache zu antworten.
Am angenehmsten f�r alle w�re es wohl, die e-Mails zweisprachig
abzufassen, was aber nicht jedem liegt und vielfach auch zu gro�en
Aufwand macht.
Es kann also jeder gerne in seiner Muttersprache schreiben, wer eine
Frage oder Antwort nicht versteht, mu� dann eben um eine �bersetzung
bitten. Abgesehen davon verstehen viele Amerikaner auch in deutsch
verfa�te E-Mails, nur die Antwort wird dann h�ufig in englisch
geschrieben, da sie in der eigenen Sprache doch sicherer sind.
Viele Gr��e
J�rgen
Co-Administrator der Hannover-L-Liste
------------ english summary -------------
Birgit asked why most of the recently sent emails were written in
English language.
I answered that this list is bilingual and it is up to the sender to
write in either English or German language. Both language are equally
welcome. Most people in this list do understand both languages or at
least get the gist of a message. If a list member doesn't understand a
message written in a foreign language, then he may ask for a
translation.
Kind regards,
Juergen
Co-Administrator of Hannover-L mailing list
We would need the approval of the LIST ADMIN in order to PUBLISH a persons
name...
I would trust that CHaupt will let us know when PAYMENT has been received!
Yes?