Hello!
If you would give me the name and datas of your ancestor from Dinklage I could see if we have informations about him. Dinklage was a part of Oldenburg and we have the page www.auswanderer-oldenburg.de with informations about emigrants from that territory. But the page is in progress so that we still haven't datas about all of our emigrants.
Best regards,
Gunter Jüchter
Danke!
My great, great grandfather's name was Franz Josef Lawrence Vodde, born in
Dinklage on 28 September 1821. He emigrated in 1848 or 1849 and settled in
Cincinnati, Ohio.
He returned to Dinklage in 1860 to bring his father and brother back to
Cincinnati. They all arrived into New York City on 03 September 1860, so I
assume they left Hamburg in July or August.
My great, great, great grandfather's name was Franz Heinrich Vodde, born in
Dinklage on 15 September 1791.
Anton Vodde was born in Dinklage on 31 August 1817.
I also know that Josef Vodde arrived back into NYC on 23 September 1891,
and it lists him as a US citizen on the ship's manifest. However, the 1900
US Census does not indicate that he was a naturalized citizen. And I
haven't found any evidence in court documents that he was naturalized.
Again, thank you so much for your help!
Marti Kerkhoff Wallace
Dear Marti,
Most likely he would have left via Bremerhaven and not via Hamburg.
I have not found any Oldenburgers
using the port of Hamburg, Bremen/Bremerhaven is considerably closer to the
region.
Greetings
Falk Liebezeit
Diepholz
Lower Saxony
Dear Marti,
Most likely he would have left via Bremerhaven and not via Hamburg.
I have not found any Oldenburgers
using the port of Hamburg, Bremen/Bremerhaven is considerably closer
to the
region.
Greetings
Falk Liebezeit
Diepholz
Lower Saxony
Dear Falk
I assume Josef Vodde left out of Bremerhaven when he emigrated in the mid
1840's, but I don't have any documents for that voyage. However, the
documents from 1860 state that the ship left from Hamburg and then
Southampton. In 1891, he left from Antwerp.
Thanks.
Marti
Early emigrants from German countries took German sailing ships only as far as England or the Netherlands because only the English and the Dutch lines had ocean-going passenger vessels.
My ancestors from the northern Rhineland and southern Westphalia all left from Antwerp.
The Germans were very late in getting into the ocean-going passenger game. When they were getting ready to offer direct passage to America, the English and Dutch companies spread out over the entire New York City waterfront (which, after all, their countries had orignally taken from the Native Americans for a string of beads), purchasing all the land on the eastern side of New York harbor, so that the German ships could not find berths to land there in New York City and New York State.
The new German passenger lines, not to be undone, went across the Hudson River to the west side of the New York harbor and purchased the harbor-fronting land in the state of New Jersey. The new German ships entering New York Harbor all berthed in New Jersey thereafter.
Many Germans, including my own, started their lives in America in places like Jersey City, Hoboken and Weehawken --- in Hudson County, New Jersey, on the west side of New York Harbor.
If you have been unsuccessful in finding your German immigrants in their early years in New York City records, do try to locate them in Hudson County, New Jersey. Many stopped there for a year or a few years to work, learn English, and save up money to purchase farm land in Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota.
My German ancestors just stayed on in Hudson County as they were skilled tradesmen and not farmers. They went to work and took into their homes and care many of those German relatives and friends who arrived in New Jersey enroute to the Midwest, giving and getting them jobs, places to live on their own, etc. If your Midwestern German ancestors had one or two children born in New Jersey, that is why! And they may have been helping my ancestors to build homes, schools, churches, the county courthouse, city halls, police stations and firehouses all over Hudson County.
On another family line, I have still been unable to locate any passenger or emigration record of any kind from any country for Johan Heinrich Friedrich "Fritz" Gansberg b. 1849 in Bremen or nearby, who was said to be dodging the Prussian Army draft. and apparently arrived in the USA 1864-1868.
I have found three Friedrich Gansbergs in the 1851 Hannover Census aged 2-3 in Amt Hoya. If any of those three interest you, too, please contact me and let's share. Thank you!
Hi Maureen,
thanks for your info. I appreciate learning more about immigration to
America. My grandmother's cousin also immigrated to New York and
stayed in Hoboken almost all his life. Gaby
One needs to be careful when espousing history. First of all prior to the
revolution we were a British colony and could only get here from the mother
country. Second, there was no maritime German nation prior to its formation
in 1871. North German Lloyd formed during the middle of the 19th century
and soon became one of the largest shipping companies in the world but an
ocean going harbor was needed and Bremerhaven had to be built to provide
direct connections to the ports of the world. There were relatively few
emigrants from German lands during the early 19th century but those who
left made do however they could. Usually Rotterdam, Antwerp or English
ports were used but not as regular passengers but rather as freight among
the material shipped to America. Up to around 1820 most were redemptionists
who did not have passage money and basically sold themselves to pay for the
trip. By mid-century passage was booked not just to NY or Hoboken but also
to various other ports like Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans etc.
Bremerhaven was just brand new and had only about 4000 inhabitants in 1840
but people from all over Europe already flocked to the ships leaving there.
By the end of the decade well over 30,000 people boarded there. Typically
they are recorded as leaving Bremen. During the period 1846-55 Hamburg also
started to provide passenger service to the world but the bulk of emigrants
didn't set sail until the latter part of the century from either port. By
the early 20th century almost all passenger service out of these ports was
for emigrants from Eastern and Southeastern Europe. Germans were no longer
in desperate need of food and mostly stayed put. Before that 1.8 million of
them went to the US.
Fred