Hi
I looking for ancestors of Bernard Suing from Visbek. They were probably Catholic. Thank you. Annette
Hello Annette,
I'm not familiar with Visbek, but I can tell you what the history book shows:
Visbek, Bauerschaft (farm group) Astrup:
farm Suing, 42 hectare about 1913
- 1501 Johann Sudink (the name came from the location "Süd"(south of) Astrup
- 1545 5 horses, 2 oxen, 8 cows, 3 cattle, 8 pigs
- 1549 Johan Sudinck and wife Tale & an other: Hinrick Sudinck and wife Grete, dougther Wobke
- 1568 Johann Suynk, wife, Johan son, Anne dougther
- 1608 8 horses, 7 cows, 24 cattle, 4 pigs, 30 sheeps
- 1661 Suingk man, wife, doughter, Henrich 5 years, Annecke 7 years old
- 1669 3 horses, 3 cows, 6 cattle, 7 pigs (because 30 years war in Europe)
- 1746 Johan Heinrich Suing and wife Maria Wedeke
- 1782 Dirk Hinrich Suing and Elisabeth Lübbering
- 1786 Elisabeth married to Caspar Freese (secound husband)
- 1831 Anna Catharina Suing and Johan Friedrich Haabe
- 1840 Maria Elisabeth Suing and Johann Heinrich Diekmann from Langförden
I hope it help,
Werner Honkomp
Hi Annette,
the online findbook of the Staatsarchiv has this entry (http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ )
Archiv: Staatsarchiv Oldenburg
Signatur: Nr. 1430
Lagerungsbestand: Best. 111-1
Laufzeit: 1806
Die Abtretung der Erbrechte an der hofh�rigen Suing-Stelle in Astrup im Kirchspiel Visbek durch Margarethe Elisabeth Suing, Ehefrau des Zellers Johann Bernd Thole in Astrup, und Marie Gertrud Suing, Ehefrau des Zellers Johann Henrich Habe in Calveslage, an ihre Halbschwester Maria Catharine Suing, Ehefrau des Johann Friedrich Habe in Calveslage
This sentence means:
In 1806 Margarethe Elisabeth Suing, wife of Johann Bernd Thole in Astrup and Marie Gertrud Suing, wife of Johann Henrich Habe in Calveslage transfered the right of succession of the Suing farm in Astrup parish Visbek to her half-sister Maria Catharine Suing, wife of Johann Friedrich Habe in Calveslage.
Greetings,
Andrea Korbanka
Hello,
I have found my ancestors name in some online findbooks: civilregister, outmigrants and churchbooks.
Does this mean that his name is in one of these civil registration/outmigrants/churchbooks in the archives mentioned at that site??
Thanks for answering
Reina
You wrote:
the online findbook of the Staatsarchiv has this entry
(http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ )
Hello Reina!
aidaonline is the online findbook of the Staatsarchive in Niedersachen. If you find an entry, you can look up the details by clicking on an entry. There is the Staatsarchiv which ownes the documents (for instance Oldenburg, Aurich, Hannover and so on). You can look at the document in this Staatsarchiv. There are only headlines in the online findbook. But sometimes the informations helps nevertheless.
Andrea Korbanka
Thanks Andrea. I first did not understand how it worked
Thank you very much for answering
Reina
Andrea wrote:
aidaonline is the online findbook of the Staatsarchive in Niedersachen. If
you find an entry, you can look up the details by clicking on an entry.
There is the Staatsarchiv which ownes the documents (for instance Oldenburg,
Aurich, Hannover and so on). You can look at the document in this
Staatsarchiv. There are only headlines in the online findbook. But sometimes
the informations helps nevertheless.
Andrea Korbanka
You wrote:
the online findbook of the Staatsarchiv has this entry
(http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ )
Thank you !
Please, could I ask you some questions?
I was wondering about the last names... why does the wife have a different last name than the husband? Did they keep their own? Who's name did the children get?
Also, I may travel to Germany this December, but I'll only have a day to spend in Oldenburg area... what places are the best to find information on these Suings? The Staatsarchiv Oldenburg? How about the archive of the Bisch�flich M�nstersches Offizialat in Vechta?
Annette
Andrea Korbanka wrote:
Can you explain further about Bauerschaft (farm groups)?
Hello Annette!
Your Suings are Catholic. The church records of Visbek you find at: Bisch�flich M�nstersches Offizialat, Bahnhofstr. 6, 49377 Vechta.
The Suing women normally have the name of her husbands. The text of the document from the Staatsarchiv used their maiden names. I do not know why. Perhaps to make clear the relationsship to her half-sister.
Greetings, Andrea
Hello Andrea and Anette,
the archive address is changed to:
Karmeliterweg 4
49377 Vechta
Tel. 04441/872-230
Fax. 04441/872-451
E-Mail: archiv@bmo-vechta.de
It is a very small way, check it via Google Map.
Check also:
http://www.offizialatsbezirk-oldenburg.de/index.php?cat_id=4684
and
http://www.offizialatsbezirk-oldenburg.de/index.php?myELEMENT=42927
Very important and easy to read:
- Maschinenabschriften bis 1830 (typed copies till 1830)
Werner Honkomp
Thank you Werner! Thank you Andrea!
Annette
Werner Honkomp wrote: