Sprengelmeyer

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Hello,

I am new to the program. I am really in need of help. I am looking for records on the surname Sprengelmeyer. I see some records on Bernhard Sprengelmeyer that was born in Mentrup Hagen, but I see a few of Sprengelmeyers came from Hannover out of the Port of Bremmer. We live here in California. I am so confused with the name. I assume they were farmers and this is why Meyer is at the end. But, I see the Sprengelmeyers were not closely positioned to where the Sprengels were. Do anyone have any help? Any Sprengelmeyers out there still?

Thank you so much!

Michelle & Kirk Sprengelmeyer.

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Hi Michelle and Kirk:

Give the list some names and dates. Dates, if Bernard is the only name you have.

If Bernhard Sprengelmeyer was his name when he lived in Germany, I would not try to expand it to Sprengel or Meyer at this time. That would make your search field much larger and much more difficult, particularly with the name Meyer.

Where in California do you live? (Question for yourself only) Oakland and San Diego both have substantial Family History Centers, if you have not tried them, you may want to. SF has the Sutro Library, which has films of an unbelievable number of ship's passenger lists.

I have not heard of Mentrup Hagen, nor could I find it on a map, but Google found a Mentrup. It is listed as: Mentrup (Niedersachsen, Germany). There is also a town by the name of Hagen, 1.9 km away from Mentrup. They are a short distance southwest of Osnabr�ck.

Now this may not be the right town, but others will confirm it or give you some alternatives. Also, if the location of the town is confirmed, you may then find locations which have records for that town.

Gale

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Around Osnabrück a lot of Sprengelmeyer addresses, here the addresses in Hagen:

Sprengelmeier, Georg
  Am Dillbach 5
  49170 Hagen

Sprengelmeyer, Emil
  Iburger Str. 44
  49170 Hagen

Sprengelmeyer, Wilhelm
  Am Dillbach 5
  49170 Hagen

Mentrup is a part of Hagen in Osnabrück county - former Kingdom of Hannover.

Werner Honkomp

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Hey old, now current Sprengelmeyers. I think you have something going.

Gale

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Okay. You guys are great. I am getting excited. I see some dots that I can connect. Thanks.

Michelle

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Hi Michelle,
     What are the specific Sprengelmeyer name(s) you are looking for?
Barbara

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Hi Barbara,

I was looking for the father of Bernhard Sprengelmeyer born in a small
village of Mentrup - Hagen back in 1577. It is strange because I will see all the
surnames in this area all end with "Meyer." Bernhard's son Martin married a lady named
Maragretha Abkemeyer. Do I assume Meyer was the occupation maybe? Then I
have a complete blank area of the father of August Sprengelmeyer born in
Neunkirchen. Does this help?

Michelle

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Hi Michelle,
    Bernhard Sprengelmeyer, b. 1577, is as far back as Alex Himmermann was able
to trace that line of my family. It is extremely difficult to trace ancestors
even that far back in Germany because most of the church records were destroyed
during the thirty years war which was basically a war between Catholics and
Protestants. Just about every battle resulted in the destruction of the
loser's church!
Don Roddy

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Thanks Don.

Michelle

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Hi Michelle,

     I must have missed something, but I didn't have any idea you were
looking for the father of someone born in 1577! I just wanted to tell you
that in the emigration archives of Osnabrück there are Sprengelmeyers from
Hagen, but also Glane and Laer which are in the same area.

    I wouldn't put a lot of concern about the Meyer at the end of the name.
It happens often. Those very early records show many variations on names in
the same family line. Many different spellings as well. Records were
written however the writer "heard" it. I would guess if I were looking at a
certain set of records of a town, e.g. and there were both Sprengel and
Sprengelmeyer names listed, I would presume they were basically related.

    If you should ever want to look at later records, the LDS has some for
Glane-Visbeck (same as the Glane mentioned above where some Sprengelmeyers
lived) :
      Registers and transcripts of church records for births, baptisms,
marriages, and deaths. Includes some indexes. Catholic Church. 1808-1874.
     The LDS has film for the same type of records for Laer.

      I'm not sure what you mean by

I have a complete blank area of the father of August Sprengelmeyer born in
Neunkirchen.

     What time period are you talking about?

    If you look at the LDS page and search for just the name of
Sprengelmeyer, there are a great number of Sprengelmeyers listed from Lienen
Westfalen. That is also in the same area (on the border between Hannover
and Westfalen) and they are perhaps related to your family. The LDS have a
number of films for Lienen that may be helpful to you as well.
  
Happy hunting!
Barbara

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Hi Michelle: This string has moved so fast, I hope I am addressing the right person.

Question on Neunkirchen. Since my German is limited all I can do is look in a dictionary. From this I get: "ninth parish". Are we possibly looking for a parish instead of a town? I note the spelling has a "n" in it as opposed to Neukirchen or "New Church"?

Are you certain about the spelling?

In a prior e-mail I mentioned Altenhagen. I appears that it may have been the home of the parish for Hagen. I believe that some also mentioned Gorgsmarienh�tte, which is in the same area.

Gale

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Hi,
     There are 17 towns in Germany by the name of Neuenkirchen, 34 by the
name of Neukirchen, 6 by the name of Neukirch and 19 by the name of
Neunkirchen (19). I checked my trusty German Autoatlas and counted each
one.
Barbara

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Hi:

Were any of them close to Osnabr�ck area, or close to Hagen?

Gale

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Sprengelmeyer could be a combination of Sprengel and Meyer.

- Sprengel is an old word for a parish or for a greater farm group.
- Meyer was in very former times the main farm of a farm group,
  he had the status like a Mayor, it became a surname later

In this case it could be the "Meyer Hof" of a greater farm group.

My interpretation, not sure!
Werner Honkomp

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Werner,

That is real interesting. Thanks. I am in California will see if I can locate a LDS branch. Wow! You guys have some much information! Thanks!

Michelle

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Michelle,
     I've done some searching and found some info that you may already have.
Here's a shiplist with three Sprengelmeyers from 1867

   ISTG Vol 4 - Bark Clara

     They(George, Anna Marie and Franz) are all listed as coming from Gland.
I don't find any town by that name so I presume it refers to Glane. They are
listed In the Osnabrück emigration archives:

    Sprengelmeyer, Anna Maria 15977 Laer
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Anna Marie Gertrud 13555 Glane
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Anna Sabine 13883 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Bernhard Heinrich Christoph 13556 Glane
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Cathrine Marie 13883 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Elisabeth 13557 Glane
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Elisabeth 15975 (1865) Laer
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Franz Heinrich 13558 Glane
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Friedrich 23091 St. Johann (Harderberg,
                                 Holzhausen, Malbergen, Nahne, Voxtrup
PERS Sprengelmeyer, G. Heinrich 14201 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, gerhard Heinrich 13883 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Jo= 13883 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Johann Heinrich 15977 Laer
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Johann Heinrich 23091 (See Friedrich)
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Johann Hermann 15976 Laer
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Johann Theodor 23092 (see Friedrich)
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Maria Elisabeth 13956 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Marie Catharine 13558 Glane
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Marie Elisabeth 13883 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Marie Elisabeth 23091 (see Friedrich)
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Marie Elisabeth Catharine 13883 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, Mathias Heinrich 13558 Glane
PERS Sprengelmeyer, ohne Vorn., weibl. 14199 Hagen
PERS Sprengelmeyer, weibl. 14200 Hagen

      These towns are all around the area south of Osnabrück.

       I found marriages in the St.Louis church records:

http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/dettleff-marr1869.htm

Joseph Sprengelmeyer married Anna Marie Peitz June 1859. His brother
Matthias is listed as a witness. Caspar and Marianne Sprengelmeyer are
Joseph's parents.

Then, somewhere it says that August Sprengelmeyer and Johanna are not listed
but they married Apr. 23, 1869.

That means the George Sprengelmeyer(emigration 1867) came AFTER August.
That may mean that they are brothers or certainly cousins.
  
    Keep track of every Sprengelmeyer name you see from that area south of
Osnabrück. Probably, they'll all tie together sometime. August is not
directly in the emigration archives--or he may be listed with another name.
It was common for people to have 2-4 names before the surname. One can't
always know which one they usually used for themselves. Often it is the
last of the names listed before the surname.
  
   By the way, Osnabrück was in Hannover kingdom. Prussia overlapped as
well in certain areas.

Barbara

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Thank you. I had about only 10% of the below!! Yeah!

Michelle