Fred,
and I am still in agony over the fact that I never responded to Mr. Goertz signature message "Holocaust is a big business now."
Perhaps he does not know any Holocaust survivors - I do.
Sometimes one is just numb.
Why don't you tell people - no more signature messages are allowed - only if they pertain to genealogy. Because some people have a signature message like - searching for...........in East Prussia.
Elke
There is a book published on this question. Consult my website below.
Well, Herr Goertz,
it does not matter if a book has been published on the issue that "Holocaust
is a big business now" - How can you make a remark like that - I read the
story of your life which is the "Schicksal" of my family too (however, we
were just plain folks).
I can put you in contact with one of my best friends - Dr. Susan
Cernyak-Spatz who is a retired professor (The University of North Carolina
at Charlotte) - Dr. Cernyak was about 17 years old when she ended up in
several concentration camps - her mother died in one of the camps - she
survived several concentration camps from the beginning to the end.
She has devoted her life trying to tell the world about what happened to
her.
I have known Dr. Cernyak-Spatz for over 30 years - she has never profited
from the holocaust situation - she has given lectures at high schools and
universities all over the United States and Germany - her only motive was
that people would not forget what happened to the 6 million Jewish people
who perished in the concentration camps.
Not long ago we had a lively discussion about what it meant to be a refugee
from the Eastern part of Germany (Ostpreussen) - I voiced my opinion of what
it meant to be a refugee from East Prussia and how my family tried to
survive in the Western part of Germany.
Anyhow - like you I ended up in the United States.
Anyhow, I really do not understand where you are coming from with your
remarks.
Elke Hedstrom, Garland, TX 75043/USA
elke.hedstrom@home.com
re:
I can put you in contact with one of my best friends - Dr. Susan
Cernyak-Spatz who is a retired professor (The University of North Carolina
at Charlotte) - Dr. Cernyak was about 17 years old when she ended up in
Adalbert Goertz responds >>>>>>>>>>>>
Finkelstein in his book "The Holocaust Industry" has a different opinion
about this business.
See my website below.
Please, let's not. Goertz has a point in that there is a certain
business in and about the Holocaust. The same goes for the
black/white issue in the US. Some people around the world would
like a little balance. What happened to the Jews is horrible and
incomprehensible but they were not alone. Most died of desease
and starvation just as 1,000,000 German POWs in Russia and
somewhere nearly 2,000,000 German civilians - mothers and
children. Cambodia and other massacres are too easily drowned in
the Jewish holocaust. We should not forget that non-Jews were
human beings too. The taking of millions of innocent lives should
be the story of the holocaust of humanity. We're in this thing
together.
As bad as the number of victims in NY is, the number still pales
compared to the sinking of just one of the refugee ship filled with
women and children in 1945 in the Baltic. Pain for the loss of a
loved one is the same for all human beings.
We don't hear a Sharpton or Jackson today as there is unity in the
land. Some people make a carrier out of divisiveness and are lost
in the brotherhood of man.
But I agree, such commentary does not belong in a genealogy
discussion list to be repeated over and over again in a signature
line.
Fred
26 Warren St., Beverly, NJ 08010
609-386-6846 FredRump@earthlink.net
Thank you, Fred.
Johann
Anyhow, I really do not understand where you are coming from with your
remarks.
Please, let's not. Goertz has a point in that there is a certain
business in and about the Holocaust. The same goes for the
black/white issue in the US. Some people around the world would
like a little balance. What happened to the Jews is horrible and
incomprehensible but they were not alone. Most died of desease
and starvation just as 1,000,000 German POWs in Russia and
somewhere nearly 2,000,000 German civilians - mothers and
children. Cambodia and other massacres are too easily drowned in
the Jewish holocaust. We should not forget that non-Jews were
human beings too. The taking of millions of innocent lives should
be the story of the holocaust of humanity. We're in this thing
together.
As bad as the number of victims in NY is, the number still pales
compared to the sinking of just one of the refugee ship filled with
women and children in 1945 in the Baltic. Pain for the loss of a
loved one is the same for all human beings.
We don't hear a Sharpton or Jackson today as there is unity in the
land. Some people make a carrier out of divisiveness and are lost
in the brotherhood of man.
But I agree, such commentary does not belong in a genealogy
discussion list to be repeated over and over again in a signature
line.
Fred
26 Warren St., Beverly, NJ 08010
609-386-6846 FredRump@earthlink.net