Sandy,
If you speak German (and probably even if you don't), you might
consider sending a request for information to the nearby historical
society located in Willershausen. Here is their website
Heimatverein Willershausen e.V.
where you will find an e-mail for the club officers:
vorstand@willershausen-harz.de
It only costs 12 Euros a year for membership and if you tell them
that you are trying to verify that your ancestors were from
Doegerode and the surrounding area I believe they have several
resources and would be well connected with local resources to find out.
Remember, just because Gottlieb was from or born in Doegerode
doesn't mean the family wasn't from another nearby town earlier.
There are several Sievers families in the area of Kalefeld.
I would write to them in German and English providing all the
possible birth dates and names for the two brothers along with
approximate or exact dates of emigration and see if they are able
to confirm your suspicions. Since they appear to be full-fledged
history and genealogy buffs like myself and the others who have
helped you on this list, it is likely they too may take up the challenge.
Be sure to note the Hamburg passenger list entry and why you think
your ancestors are from Doegerode or the surrounding area.
Best of luck,
Bob Behnen
Kirksville, MO
Hi Bob,
I see your are from Kirksville, Mo. How close are you to Columbia,Mo. The reason I ask is because in my search on Gottlieb I found out he was a Mason. So I contacted the Fenton Lodge and spoke with Mr. Fetters. He was VERY helpful. He told me that Gottlieb received his 1st Degree on 2May1885, 2nd Degree on 30 May1885 and 3rd on 27Jun1885. He went on to be the Master Mason in 1892,1896,1897,1903,1905 & 1907. Then I contacted the head Lodge in MO. they confirmed but would not let me where in Germany Gottlieb was from. So, I called Mr. Fetters back and asked him what he thought. He said," All I can say is when a petitioner wants to join he has to read a "letter of intent. There should be a record of Gottlieb Sievers". I spoke with him June 2007, he said The Masons were opening a library in Columbia and Gottlieb's info should be there.
What do you think??? Everyone tells me I am crazy to "mess around" with the Masons. I just wanted to know WHERE in Germany.
Blessings & Thanks again
sandy sievers cooper
Robert Behnen schrieb:
Sandy,
If you speak German (and probably even if you don't), you might
consider sending a request for information to the nearby historical
society located in Willershausen. Here is their website Heimatverein Willershausen e.V.
where you will find an e-mail for the club officers:
vorstand@willershausen-harz.de
It only costs 12 Euros a year for membership and if you tell them
that you are trying to verify that your ancestors were from
Doegerode and the surrounding area I believe they have several
resources and would be well connected with local resources to find out.
Remember, just because Gottlieb was from or born in Doegerode
doesn't mean the family wasn't from another nearby town earlier.
There are several Sievers families in the area of Kalefeld.
I would write to them in German and English providing all the
possible birth dates and names for the two brothers along with
approximate or exact dates of emigration and see if they are able
to confirm your suspicions. Since they appear to be full-fledged history and genealogy buffs like myself and the others who have
helped you on this list, it is likely they too may take up the challenge.
Be sure to note the Hamburg passenger list entry and why you think
your ancestors are from Doegerode or the surrounding area.
Sorry
but the
Willershausen Heimatverein is the wrong address. I would try the D�gerode Heimatverein.
Heimatverein D�gerode
c/o Peter Mutschall
Auetalstr. 67
37589 Kalefeld
Here is the link to the official web page <http://www.kalefeld.de/ortschaften/doegerode.asp>
Another interessting link shows the web page of the "Heimatfreunde Altes Amt" <http://www.heimatfreunde-altes-amt.de/> follow the link to D�gerode.
D�gerode is part of the Kalefeld parish.
Heinz
P.S. I grew up in Westerhof 5 km away from D�gerode.
Hi Sandy,
I am near Columbia, MO.
I too am searching for ancestors from Hanover area in Germany.
Let me know if I can do anything for you in Columbia, MO.
I speak and understand a small amount of Deutsch.
Rodney Schulte
Lohman, MO
Hi Rodney,
Thanks so much for your offer. Right now I am so excited. After, almost 10 years of digging and hitting BIG brick walls. these wonderful people, I'd call friends, have given me Great hope! Once I get all my ducks in a row I just might email you for some help. Because it is hard searching Il/ MO. while living in Texas.
Blessings
sandy sievers cooper
Well since Sandy had such good luck, I thought I'd present my brick wall and see if anyone can help me.
Here is the story as handed down by my grandmother:
Mr. Menke (given name unknown) and his wife came to the United States around 1848 along with their daughters Elizabeth and Lizetta. They were from Osnabruck or the surrounding area. Shortly after their arrival a son, Louis, was born and shortly after that both parents died. Elizabeth was then taken in by a Lutheran Minister and Lizetta and Louis were taken in my their Aunt Rust. Elizabeth and Lizetta each married and settled in Indianapolis where they lived out their lives. Louis joined the Union Army during the American Civil War. He died during the war and was buried in Virginia.
Now here is what I think I know:
Mr. Menke and his wife, Mary, came to the U.S. about 1848 or 1849 and settled in Jackson County, Indiana. Mr. Menke either died on the voyage or very shortly after they arrived (it's possible he died in Germany). Mr. Menke and Mary's known children are as follows:
1. Christian Menke (Jan 1837-14 Aug 1899) married Louisa Henke and lived his adult life in Dubois County, IN
2. Elisabeth Menke (13 Oct 1841 - 7 May 1934) married Frederick Speier and lived her adult life in Indianapolis, IN
3. Lizetta Menke (1 Nov 1842 - 2 Apr 1905) married Karl "Charles" Otto and lived her adult life in Indianapolis, IN
4. Louis Menke, born abt 1845. no other information.
5. Mary Menke, born abt 1848, no other information
By 1860 the children were scattered with Christian and Louis still in Jackson County, IN (though not together), Elisabeth married and living in Indianapolis, and no sign of Lizetta, Mary or their mother. In 1861 Christian moved to Dubois County, IN where he lived the rest of his life. Louis drops from sight after the 1860 Census, a search of military records hasn't turned him up as of yet. The spelling of the last name varies and it's possible he went by a different given name. Although I've not found Lizetta in 1860 she married in Indianapolis in 1862 where she remained the rest of her life. I've identified Aunt Rust as Lizetta (or Henrietta) Rust who is most likely the sister of their mother Mary. Lizetta Rust (c1810-19 Aug 1894) was married to Frederick Rust (c1811-c1875) and they were living in Jackson County, IN in 1850 and 1860. The moved to Dubois County, IN by 1870 and Lizetta Rust (widow) was living in the household of her niece Lizetta (who had married Karl Otto) in 1880. A check of probate records in Jackson County, IN did not turn up anything on Mr. Menke or his wife Mary. The family was of the Lutheran faith in the United States. A check of church records hasn't turned up any town name.
Thank you,
Hello Joel:
Here is one I found that might be of some interest. Try looking up his naturalization record. If this isn't your Mr. Menke, perhaps he's a relative who had something to do with bringing him to Indiana:
Name:
Edward H. Menke
Year:
1847-1848
Place:
Indiana
Source Publication Code:
3434
Primary Immigrant:
Menke, Edward H
Source Bibliography:
AN INDEX TO INDIANA NATURALIZATION RECORDS Found in Various Order Books of the Ninety-Two Local Courts prior to 1907. Indianapolis: Family History Section, Indiana Historical Society, 1981. 172p.
Page:
105Good luck, Pam