Sievers (Gottlieb Sievers)

hannover-l
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In einer eMail vom 07.01.2008 19:13:14 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt
hannover-l-request@genealogy.net:

I even have the same amount on his brother Gottlieb
Sievers who lived in House Springs, Mo.

Hi Sandy

Ok you wrote you have the same amount about Gottlieb Sievers. That means the
double chance to find the place of birth !! cause Henry and Gottlieb are
brothers.

So could you please open your box again and give us what you have about him?
At the present time i have found not more than his ship, nothing in the 1870
census, surely his name is misspelled.

Armin

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Hi Armin,

Sure, I can post that information. It may take me 30-45 mins. to pull and arrange Gottlieb Sievers file.

Blessings
sandy sievers cooper

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Descendants of Gottlieb SIEVERS

Generation No. 1

1. GOTTLIEB1 SIEVERS was born July 18, 1848 in Hamburg, Germany, and died April 18, 1928 in Jefferson Co., MO. He married (1) ARA MELVINA LEE October 22, 1871 in Morse Mill, Jefferson Co., MO, daughter of L.H. LEE. She was born July 03, 1849, and died August 06, 1892 in Jefferson Co., MO. He married (2) MAHALIA E. MEDLEY September 1893 in Jefferson Co., MO, daughter of SAMUEL MEDLEY and ISABEL (MEDLEY). She was born January 1869 in MO, and died Aft. 1930 in Jefferson Co., MO.

Notes for GOTTLIEB SIEVERS:

BORUSSIA (1)

The "Borussia" was a 2,131 gross ton ship, built by Caird & Co, Greenock in 1855 for the Hamburg America Line. Her details were - length 280ft x beam 38.5ft, clipper stem, one funnel, three masts, iron construction, single screw and a speed of 10 knots. There was accommodation for 54-1st, 146-2nd and 310-3rd class passengers. Launched on 3/7/1855, she was immediately chartered by the British government as a Crimean War transport. On 1/6/1856 she started her first Hamburg - New York voyage and on 30/4/1870 sailed from Hamburg on her last run on this service. In 1871 she was fitted with compound engines and was then transferred to the Hamburg - West Indies service. In 1876 she went to the Dominion Line and on 2/9/1876 started sailings between Liverpool and New Orleans. On 20/11/1879 she left Liverpool for the last time for New Orleans but was abandoned at sea on 2nd December with the loss of 169 lives. [North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.1,p.387] [Posted to The ShipsList by Ted Finch - 22 October 1997]

More About GOTTLIEB SIEVERS:

Burial: Bethlehem Cemetery, Jefferson Co., MO

Census 1: 1900, DeSoto, Jefferson Co., MO

Census 2: 1910, Jefferson Co., MO

Census 3: 1920, House Springs, Meramec, Jefferson Co., MO

Immigration: May 22, 1863, From Hamburg, Germany to New York aboard Borussia

Occupation 1: 1910, Innkeeper

Occupation 2: 1920, Post Office

More About ARA MELVINA LEE:

Burial: Bethlehem Cemetery, Jefferson Co., MO

More About MAHALIA E. MEDLEY:

Census: 1930, House Springs, Meramec, Jefferson Co., MO

Children of GOTTLIEB SIEVERS and ARA LEE are:

                              i. WILLIAM ALBERT2 SIEVERS, b. May 07, 1873, MO; d. November 12, 1952, St. Louis, MO (Source: Missouri State Archives death records 1910-1956, www.sos.mo.gov.); m. CORA BELL HERMAN, 1901, MO; b. 1876, MO; d. 1938, St. Louis, MO (Source: Missouri State Archives death records 1910-1956, www.sos.mo.gov.).

More About WILLIAM ALBERT SIEVERS:

Census 1: 1910, St. Louis, MO

Census 2: 1920, St. Louis, MO

Census 3: 1930, St. Louis, MO

Occupation: Policeman

                              ii. CHARLES L. SIEVERS, b. Abt. 1876, MO; d. Unknown; m. SUDIE E. HARVISON, Abt. 1905, MO (Source: Approximate date of marriage according to census records.); b. January 26, 1875, MO; d. July 06, 1946, St. Louis, MO.

More About CHARLES L. SIEVERS:

Census 1: 1910, St. Louis, MO

Census 2: 1920, St. Louis, MO w/ brothers Elmer & Walter in household

Census 3: 1930, St. Louis, MO w/ brother Walter in household

Occupation: Office Work, Wholesale Hardware

More About SUDIE E. HARVISON:

Burial: Hiram Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Children of GOTTLIEB SIEVERS and MAHALIA MEDLEY are:

                              iii. MABEL2 SIEVERS, b. July 1894.

2. iv. ELMER R. SIEVERS, b. November 1899, Jefferson Co., MO.

                              v. WALTER SIEVERS, b. Abt. 1902.

                              vi. LOLA SIEVERS, b. Abt. 1905.

Generation No. 2

2. ELMER R.2 SIEVERS (GOTTLIEB1) was born November 1899 in Jefferson Co., MO. He married GERTRUDE (SIEVERS) Abt. 1922. She was born Abt. 1904.

More About ELMER R. SIEVERS:

Census: 1930, House Springs, Meramec, Jefferson Co., MO

Children of ELMER SIEVERS and GERTRUDE (SIEVERS) are:

                              i. RAY C.3 SIEVERS, b. 1924.

                              ii. GLORIA R. SIEVERS, b. 1927.

                              iii. DARLENE L. SIEVERS, b. 1929.

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Sandy,

You didn't mention the 1870 and 1880 Census, they are below.

1870 Federal Census: Big River, Jefferson County, MO
Meyer, Henry, age 21, born Germany, Blacksmith
Meyer, Lena, age 20, born Germany
Meyer, Amelia, age 1, born MO
Rivers, Gottlieb, age 21, born Germany, Blacksmith
(Although the name is spelled Rivers, I feel certain this is your Sievers, note he is a Blacksmith) It might be worth checking out Henry Meyers as there could be a connection or perhaps Gottlieb worked for him as a blacksmith.

1880 Federal Census: Meramec, Jefferson County, MO
Sievers, Gottlieb, age 32, born in Hannover, Blacksmith
Sievers, Ara A., age 30, born in MO
Sievers, Willie, age 7, born MO
Sievers, Charlie, age 4, born in MO

Hope these help.

Joel
http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/

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Hi Joel,

This is amazing!! First you find Heinrich G. Sievers in 1860 in Ruma........which I could not. THEN, you find Gottlieb in 1870 . How did you do it?? I did have 1880, but have not put it in my computer yet. So, what do you think after the information you have seen so far? Do you think they really could have came fron Hanover? Every one in Ruma, Il. told me the story that two brothers came over from Hannover, Germany. First the oldest (mine) then his brother Gottlieb. I do have alot more on Gottlieb because he made his presence more noticable in MO. I know he was a coffin maker (because of his newspaper ad) , a blacksmith, Justice of the Peace ( in 1906) , owned a hotel, was the postmaster(1896 & 1915-1928) for many years in House Springs,Mo. and was a "Master Mason" in Fenton,Mo. I have even tried to track down info on Gottlieb's 2 sons from 1st wife. I did find them in St.Louis, Mo and wrote to the police history library. They sent me a picture of him in uniform. But, neither son Charles or William had children. They got married...but no children. I found one of their distant cousins in a nursing home. She and I write alot, but she said her dad really did try to keep in touch with the boys but when Gottlieb remarried they hardly ever came back to visit. i have a copy of his will, it doesnt say a thing of where he was born. Also, both wedding lic., still nothing. Where should I turn to now?

Blessings & Joy
sandy sievers cooper

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Sandy,

As active as Gottlieb was you should be able to find an obituary on him, if you haven't already, his town of birth might be given there. Also check the county history if you haven't already.

I just read down my emails and see that Bob appears to have found your town. All of my families traveled out of Bremen so I didn't even think to look at the Hamburg lists.

Joel

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Hi Joel,

Yes, this is a great day!! And, many thanks to all whom stepped up to help me. Thank You All !!!
Do you think I will ever find any ship records out of Breman? Or is it true that they are gone by fire.

Blessings & lots of Joy

sandy sievers cooper

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All Bremen ship records are onlie. The others are lost by fire

Bernd

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Hi Sandy,
    It does make a difference in which Church you contact for possible records
:slight_smile:
    Congratulations on finding your ancestor's village!
    Don Roddy
    Jacksonville

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Hi Don

Thanks for your information. Yep, it is Wonderful to actually have the name. Feels like Christmas morning!

Blessings
sandy sievers cooper