Thanks to you all three Gail Frain and Paul and Ann Kasameyer
for Information about Herman Albers from 1930 census. As the one, who is from my
family was called commonly Hermann and had the others as second names it might be
him, but that will not fit in age. Defintely is the birth-date 1893 and if it is
his already a son, he must have become father in the age of 13 or 18. Not abso-
lutely impossible, but would be in this time a seldom case. So it isn�t a pity at
all as I�m collecting all the Albers I can get, sometimes connection appears
later. has been yesterday, that I got news from a research-collegue from M-L-List
about a relative Albers from Neetze, where I hadn�t yet knowledge, where he had
gone to. Was only 35 km and about 5 generations back, but as belonging to another
"Kirchspiel", not found already. Often there is only luck which makes one come
along. So again thanks a lot. And no panic anyway, we come along point by point.
As we are at the point of lucky accidents. Maybe we come along with the Seedorfs
on another way. I tried to find out, if there are still some in Holzen today.
And there were no. So I looked how they are spread over the country in Germany.
Result there are about 520 Seedorf having a tlephon in 1995, that�s not too much
in comparision. And they are centered. First you find them in big towns as
Berlin, Hamburg, Bremen, a little colony in D�sseldorf. The most surprising
thing however is, more than 10 % of all Seedorf(f) nowadays live in one smaller
town 2o km north of Bremen in 27711 Osterholz-Scharmbeck, exactly 53 of them.
That`s a good news because the probability that there had been already research
in Seedorf-Family is very large. Maybe they have concentrated on other Seefeld
but they must be related anyway and in a family one knows, who has the documenets
of genealogical kind. So tell me, if you need some of the adresses or the 4 or 5,
which are still in the region around Holzen. I would like more to give the actuel
adresses of people directly, not going over the list.
I went again over the proceeding e-mail from 26.02 concerning Hermann Albers.
Those Albers-dates you sended Gail are those, you meant to remember they are from
Neetze, is that right ? If yes, I�m surely relationed to them. I have gathered
all entries about Albers from there and they all go back to almost one and the
same "old shepherd Hans Albers", as the parish book writer wrote down in 1732 .
So if you get contact again, you can tell these Albers, I can give them with
higmightiest probabability their anchestors up to this one back. I would
appreciate in this case to get all they have in the other direction, starting
from coming from Neetze.
Next point from other discussion about "Landwehr". I was corrected by a today�s
newspaper Article, where the "Kreisarchivar" Tetau, who is an official man of
research in Adendorf administration, just 3 km north of Luneburg. In his opinion
"Landwehr" was also an building for defense, but not a military one. They were
build around the towns, to protect the city from losses in trade. By that the
wheel-carts were forced to pass the inlets, where the taxes were taken. Think he
is right and gives the better explanation why there are such a lot of places
called "Landwehr", even if there could have been a small military gain also in
it. Thought had to correct this, also it makes no direct progress in finding
Thre was the question, if the "Grundherr" is a "gent in... laird". I found the
translation "Gutsherr" for "laird". That`s something different here, and a
phenomenon of O-W-Prussia at first and is here possible, but no dominating form
of orgaisation of field-work. It means here, that a greater "Hof" with a manifold
of a normal "Hof" is in one managing hand, mostly in aristocartic possession.
There was one in Neetze since anytime, another builded in beginning 19th century.
Knowing the modern form of landpossesion it`s difficult to understand the rights
of already medieval origin still existing in 17.and 18th century. In our case in
reference to the names I gave you, it is only important to know, they couldn�t by
and sell the land as they wanted before transformations in right in the first
part of 19th century. The "Grundherr" had the right for fee, decision who was set
on it, but with deminuishing influence to the present.
Hope, I have nothing forgotten, otherwise next e-mail, getting always horror
seeing my typing errors in older mails. Promise to better me.
Hans Peter Albers