I have a handwritting problem with the name. On this leter written by a feeble woman was the surname of the man who married the long lost Seil.
Sister to Henry Seil. She had relocated to either Montana,Wyoming or Oklahoma. She and her brother had arrived to new york early 1900 from Bleckede area. They lost each other there in new york. Many years later she was found in the west married to this name which was difficult to read in handwriting.
Because of the last downward loop it can not be ritterhouse or anyname like that it would have to be similiar to Ritterbusch or Ritterburg.
I would suppose that since she was low german she would marry someone who spoke similiar german??
The person that forwarded the letter is rather slow in writing as I have asked for a rentry of that name. I guess I should write again.
Any suggestions as to what it could be.
Thanks for your time to my vague question.
jo
Hello Jo Meyer,
have got a RITTERBERG in the region. A "g" in "berg"has a loop beneath the normal
writing level. It�s a not to often name of the L�neburg region, and by that of
the Bleckede area:
"RITTERBERG, Joh.Herm Dan., angehender Leinweber in Adendorf, S. d.+ Leinwebers
Joh. Wilh. in Braunschweig, oo 1783 In L�ne Anna Marg. MEIER, T.d. + Hsw. Hans
Friedr. zu Adendorf." Quelle: Borstelmann, Amt L�ne. S.93
Translation by HPA: Joh. Herm. Dan(iel). Ritterberg, a commencing linen-weaver in
Adendorf, son of the deceased linen-weaver Joh. Wilh.(Ritterberg) in Braun-
schweig, married 1783 in L�ne (a parish in L�neburg) Anna Marg. Meier, daughter
of the deceased Hauswirth (owner of house) Hans Friedr.Meier from Adendorf.
It�s some generation before 1900, but almost the only ones with "Ritter-" in the
name. In 1450 there are some "Rittzeken", but also only then and not lateron.
Perhaps you get back to the Ritterberg above.By the way, there no Ritterberg in
Germany in 1995 anymore, with a sloop at the end only some 8 Ritterling.
Best wishes Hans Peter Albers
gutt morgan schrieb:
Hello Jo Meyer,
have got a RITTERBERG in the region. A "g" in "berg"has a loop beneath the normal
writing level. It�s a not to often name of the L�neburg region, and by that of
the Bleckede area:
"RITTERBERG, Joh.Herm Dan., angehender Leinweber in Adendorf, S. d.+ Leinwebers
Joh. Wilh. in Braunschweig, oo 1783 In L�ne Anna Marg. MEIER, T.d. + Hsw. Hans
Friedr. zu Adendorf." Quelle: Borstelmann, Amt L�ne. S.93
Translation by HPA: Joh. Herm. Dan(iel). Ritterberg, a commencing linen-weaver in
Adendorf, son of the deceased linen-weaver Joh. Wilh.(Ritterberg) in Braun-
schweig, married 1783 in L�ne (a parish in L�neburg) Anna Marg. Meier, daughter
of the deceased Hauswirth (owner of house) Hans Friedr.Meier from Adendorf.
It�s some generation before 1900, but almost the only ones with "Ritter-" in the
name. In 1450 there are some "Rittzeken", but also only then and not lateron.
Perhaps you get back to the Ritterberg above.By the way, there no Ritterberg in
Germany in 1995 anymore, with a sloop at the end only some 8 Ritterling.
Best wishes Hans Peter Albers
gutt morgan schrieb:
I know that Braunschweig is a region, but has anyone heard of it being a family name?
Ludwig Höring (Hering) m. about 1755 in Pennsylvania a Maria Christina, I have seen one reference to her surname as Braunschweig. This was in a letter and no documentation as to where they got this name.
Yvonne Castens Prough
Hello Yvonne,
That is indeed a surname. Look at the LDS site and there are a number
of Braunschweigs listed. The marriage of Ludwig Höring and Maria Christina
is listed there. No other information is given (except her birthdate). But
if you do a general search with just the surname itself and check the
correct spelling box, you will find quite a few people listed.
Barbara
:
That is indeed a surname.
Does any one know of an area in Germany where the name Braunschweig would have left to go to Pennsylvania in the 1750"s. Yvonne
The Prough's schrieb:
:
>That is indeed a surname.
Does any one know of an area in Germany where the name Braunschweig would
have left to go to Pennsylvania in the 1750"s. Yvonne
There are about 750 Braunschweig- and Braunschweiger-Families nowadays in the
country, which are, also there are slight centres in Lower-Saxony and North-
Rhine-Westfalia, soread regularly countrywide. One may count back to 1750 and
will have still about 100 estimated families of this name. The famoust bearer of
the name Braunschweig were the Dukes of Braunschweig and L�neburg, which played
an important role already in 13th century. These genealogies will be as aristo-
cratic ones very good researched.
In my region, I have found in Erbstorf 1450 Hans BRUN�WIG, in 1535 in Adendorf
Aleke und Hans BRUNSWIG, and in Melbeck for the time about 1641 to 1659 David
Joh. BRAUNSCHWEIG. In none of this places are families Braunschweig anymore.
There is of course the principle problem when a name vanishes from a place. You
don�t know if they had gone only into the next village or 10.000 miles away. In
normal case there was no need to let the new address at the old place. Sometimes
there are documents of removal from duty in the army. Other news, if there were
some are stored in treasured family papers, which seldom become of public use, if
no one in the family publishes them. So what I could do, is give you a list of
the about 750 adresses of bearer Braunschweig-name in 1995, perhaps you are lucky
in writing to some of them and find accidently one, who did research in that
family name.
I found one person, who does research in that name: Werner Maass who looks for
Braunschweig from G�ttingen. E-mail: werner.maass@freenet.de
Best wishes Hans Peter Albers
Thank you Hans Peter, but I am really getting my cart ahead of the horse. I am still not confident in the name of Maria Christina being Braunschweig. I have seen one letter written to a researcher some 40 years ago that gave Braunschweig as her maiden name, the writer gave no source in this letter. There seems to be no marriage record in Pennsylvania. Have found no ships lists around that time with the name, and also they lived in Braunschweig township (which name was soon spelled Brunswick) in Berks Co. Pennsylvania. So I think before you go to the trouble of getting the names for me I should first better establish the name. But I do thank you for the information and I will file it, so I will have that when I do get this name pinned down. Yvonne Castens Prough
Yvonne,
If you haven't looked in the Pennsylvania archives
(http://www.usgenweb.com/), there are many items with the name of Höring
(Herring, Horring and its many spellings). It would seem that in order to
find Maria Christina's surname, you have to go through her husband.
Also, this one with the many Palatine immigrant ship lists--they are
not yet indexed so you have to go through each one:
Do you have Ludwig's ship list? Check this one:
Could this be it? It doesn't provide much information beyond his name.
Also, more ships---
There are many books written on Palatine Families from Pennsylvania. I
found many in our Denver library.
Johan Ludwig Horing is listed in one of these books.
See it here: http://feefhs.org/pub/pp/pp1/pp1-h23.html
Only the index is online
Also, this one has a Anna Maria Herring (Metzing):
Even More Palatine Families: 18th Century
Immigrants to the American Colonies
and their German, Swiss and Austrian Origins
Authors: Henry Z Jones, Jr. and Lewis Bunker Rohrbach
There are other Palatine Family books. Some of these are on the Feefhs
website.
Recently, I had done some research in the mid-1700's in Pennsylvania and New
York recently for a brother-in-law. Since these websites were fairly fresh
in my mind recently, I thought I'd pass some of it on to you.
Good luck!
Barbara
The Prough's schrieb:
Thank you Hans Peter, but I am really getting my cart ahead of the
horse. I am still not confident in the name of Maria Christina being
Braunschweig. I have seen one letter written to a researcher some 40 years
ago that gave Braunschweig as her maiden name, the writer gave no source in
this letter. There seems to be no marriage record in Pennsylvania. Have
found no ships lists around that time with the name, and also they lived in
Braunschweig township (which name was soon spelled Brunswick) in Berks Co.
Pennsylvania. So I think before you go to the trouble of getting the names
for me I should first better establish the name. But I do thank you for
the information and I will file it, so I will have that when I do get this
name pinned down. Yvonne Castens Prough
Some times one has to go a step into the uncertain and unknown to get further.
Trial and error is family-researchers daily meal. So there is today a family
Braunschweig in the city of Braunschweig here. Why not ?
Sincerely Hans Peter Albers