PLATTDEUTSCHE...and they never spoke again

Dear Karl,

I liked your explanation of Plattdeutsche..even though I always thought of Platt as a dialect..depending if one was a Northerner or a Southerner..however...used to have some old letters, written to my grandparents of Bergedorg/Hamburg..in German..I gave to a friend who speaks fluent German..and she couldn't read em! Her family was from Bonn,..mine was from Bergedorf.

Hers spoke high German, mine spoke/wrote low German. And yes..I was offended when she said that!..but the idea came to me..that it was the dialect..and the location..rather than class.

ut.. I'm sure class had something to do with it also..why else would they leave their home and come to America? They wanted something more.
My grandfather died in 1972.

My PlattDeutsh lower class German grandfather left my dad 4 houses and over $75,000.00 cash which in today's market..I don't know how much..but was a nice chunk of change. He always saved his money..rolled change, pennys even.

I think because he came to the U.S. in 1924 and lived through the depression, and I guess remembered the Bergedorf of the 1920's..after WWI when times were hard. He was lutheran..baptised at the old St. Peter and Paul Church in Bergedorf. He lived on Pole Street..(I think thats what Bergedorf Am. Pool 2 translates to), about 2 miles from St. Petri unde Pauli Kirche.

I have old photos from 1932 Bergedorf, Luneberg?, Cuxhaven..from a trip to home he made with my grandmother and uncle just a bit before the Nazi's took over, and one from 1947 at Cuxhaven..on the sea of a cousin I think? Her name was Annaliese Rindr? (I think the I has a dot over it.) A few older photos..I have no idea who the people are..but I think probobly family.

A neat picture in the country someplace in Germany..perhaps near Wittenberg..and the kids are wearing wreaths..like a leaf baldric type thing..maybe from the Olympics..or..perhaps a sign of peace. Like figs or something? I don't know..Would that be some kind of holiday maybe?

Many of the pictures I think are from tourist type visit..like Schloss Bernberg..some kind of a skylift? I can read on the back where developed.

Barbie

Cactus Flower or barbie wrote:

I think because he came to the U.S. in 1924 and lived through the
depression, and I guess remembered the Bergedorf of the 1920's..after WWI
when times were hard. He was lutheran..baptised at the old St. Peter and
Paul Church in Bergedorf. He lived on Pole Street..(I think thats what
Bergedorf Am. Pool 2 translates to), about 2 miles from St. Petri unde Pauli
Kirche.

Hello and a nice day to you,

there are coincidences, one should not believe it.

As I worked as postman in Bergedorf from 1993 to 2000 and brought sometimes even
there some letters, I can tell you, because postman count every step, the
distance Am Pool to the Petri und Paul Kirche is less then a kilometer. Today its
known as address of the Trade-Union in Nr. 41, Nr.2 does not exist nowadays.
Perhaps it had to fall in connexion with building a wide street just through the
centre of Bergedorf after WWII, may be it exists and the street was renumberede.

I have old photos from 1932 Bergedorf, Luneberg?, Cuxhaven..from a trip to
home he made with my grandmother and uncle just a bit before the Nazi's took
over, and one from 1947 at Cuxhaven..on the sea of a cousin I think? Her
name was Annaliese Rindr? (I think the I has a dot over it.) A few older
photos..I have no idea who the people are..but I think probobly family.

If a "dot" is something like a "dash", but put over the letter, that means the
letter below is an "u". Was made this way, because in the old writing, it goes in
hooks up and down and that should make some difference. So the name will be
"Runde", which is quite often, one of the last mayors of Hamburg was of the name
Runde.The "dr" at the end is very uncommon and probably an "e", both letters are
a bit of similar in old handwriting.

I�m interested in your old Bergedorf- and L�neburg- Photos. Is it possible to
make some simple black and white copies and send it over ? one can put a lot of
them on the place of one Din A4 copy-sheet. Maybe I can tell you something about
it. If you send copies of some letters, I can translate a bit for you. Perhaps 10
or 20 pages, not more. But I would like to give the translation afterwards to the
historical society of Bergedorf, if they are of some local history interest. But
that would be your decision, when you know, what the contence is.

So think about it. You also may say no at all, wouldn`t mean any damage or harm
  
                                                 Hans Peter Albers

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