Dear Barbie,
You asked if J�rgen could have been substituted for Jacob. I'm very curious about this because of a problem I'm having with my own research. I'm looking for the death record of Jacob von Dreel in Neuenkirchen bie V�rden. I don't find a record of Jacob, but yesterday I found a record of J�rgen van Dreel in 1708 at the age of 98, which would be just about the correct age of my Jacob.
So my question, are the names Jacob and J�rgen commonly interchangeable?
Thank you.
Linda Kramer Edwards
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I have been following this interesting conversation about names. Has anyone every heard of Johann being called Jurgen? I have a ggg grandfather who always appears as Johann Christian Degener. I have not been able to locate a death for him in the church records in his German village of Rodewald in Hannover. He was supposed to have been born ca. 1760 and died ca. 1840. They do have a record of a Jurgen Degener who died in 1840 at the age of 80. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Don
Hallo Don,
I have been following this interesting conversation about names. Has
anyone every heard of Johann being called Jurgen?
Johann and J�rgen are totally different names. "J�rgen" comes from "G�rgen" and thats the northgerman form of "Georg".
I have a ggg
grandfather who always appears as Johann Christian Degener. I have not been able to locate a death for him in the church records in his German village of Rodewald in Hannover. He was supposed to have been born ca. 1760 and died ca. 1840. They do have a record of a Jurgen Degener who died in 1840 at the age of 80. Any thoughts?
Perhaps your Johann Christian had a third name of which you don`t know ? Look for his birthday.
Greetings Susanne
Hallo Susanne
Thanks for the reply. The baptism records for the time frame of his birth are missing. That is why I have not been able to confirm his actual birth year. He does appear in numerous church records and always just as Johann Christian.
Don
Dear Don,
Off subject here.
I was perusing old biographical book and stumbled across the surname Degner. For the off chance.. here is some info from that biographical entry.
Bio of Lewis Owens**
On December 18, 1884, Mr. Owens* married Miss Louisa Matthes, who was born in Dodge county, January 21, 1863, a daughter of Fred and Johanna (Degner*) Matthes, natives of Germany.
Her father was born in the districk of the Oderbruk?*, June 21, 1830, and resides in Horicon. His wife's birth occured December 3, 1839, and she died in Woodland, Dodge county, in 1881.
**Lewis Owens, born April 12, 1859, his parents being Hugh and Carolina (Albert) Owens. His father born in Wales in 1812, died in America 1884. His mother a native of Saxony Germany born 1838.
Source:
Dodge County, Wisconsin, past and present
Chicago: S.J. Clarke Pub. Co., 1913, 957 pgs
Vol. II. Page 244
Barbie
I have been following this interesting conversation about names. Has anyone every heard of Johann being called Jurgen? I have a ggg grandfather who always appears as Johann Christian Degener. I have not been able to locate a death for him in the church records in his German village of Rodewald in Hannover. He was supposed to have been born ca. 1760 and died ca. 1840. They do have a record of a Jurgen Degener who died in 1840 at the age of 80. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Don