Bob Marhenke schrieb:
Mr Albers,
Well, your two replies are certainly interesting and some what promising.
I have been forwarding your information on to Dorothy. Mr Albers were
you able to read the attached document well enough to notice that
Dorthea's parents, Johann Friederich and Johanne Wihelmina were both
Mueller's? Possibly cousins? I notice in your second reply that in the
chain of ownership to this mill the names Johann Friederich and Johanne
Wilhelmine are not mentioned.
Yes, I realized that. There are some more marriages M�LLER./.M�LLER mentioned in
the farm history. That is not so quite unusual and doesn't mean they were rela-
tioned. If there was a relation in between the last three generations, they
wouldn't have been allowed to marry at all and in such a case they would have to
achieve a dispense of the church, what would be mentioned in the parish-book.
Seems as if there has been a little concentration with the name M�LLER in the
region. If you check my information about the M�LLER from the mill, you find
M�LLER women, married from surrounding villages. The lots of same named lines
are the reason of difficulties in research, to many bearer of the name, sometimes
with the same prename makes the things complexe. The other answer is, your M�LLER
could not yet be mentioned in the farm history because they are to young for the
farm history, which registers farm owner families up to 1750 and mentions
sometimes known dates of the death of these people, which goes up to about 1804.
There are no birth entries or marriages later then 1750 researched.
With this in mind, I guess my first question is : Would the Parish
record be the first place to start to sort out and clarify which Mueller
families connects directly to Johann and Johanne? My second question
is: I notice in the LDS catalog they have filmed the Parish records for
Ev. Kirche Suderburg (Kr. Ulzen) Would this be the correct record? And
my third question is: Were you able to contact Mr Meyer and if so is he
searching this same record and if he is, what is the potential and costs
of having him look into the record enough to see if in fact we are on the
right trail?
Yes, that is the only way, you have to get the parish-book-entries of the
mentioned M�LLER of your documents about marriages and birth, etc. and
reconstruct the genealogy out of the parish-book until you find a already known
M�LLER of the farm history, then you can follow and take over the already
gathered information farther back. 1750 up to 1859 might be a gap of 3,4 maybe
also 5 generations. One of my anchestors became father with 62. That would
shorten the amount of generations in that time. I did not know the parish-book
was filmed, but that is another good luck for Dorothy Nolte. So she can do the
research over there herself and does not need expensive researchers. If there are
doubts in understanding, we can solve them with a scan as before. I just have
send a copy of the message to you also to him. As he lives in the states, I
thought you would contact each other over there, change telephone-numbers and
could clear possibilities of working together. As there are also M�LLER/MEYER
relations in Oldendorf there might even be a relationship from the time before
1750. Actually I am not informed, if Edward Meyer had already started concrete
research over here or with the Mormons in Suderburg. We had contact by E-mail in
the range of last month, so in genealogical terms of time just as fresh as we do
now. But he had had already earlier contact with a researcher of Suderburg, so he
could perhaps answer better your questions about costs. Four generations with
that lot of childs in the time will last several hours, if not a day. So I would
first see, what I could find by LDS-films, to lower the amount of work to do. You
had bad informations from Hannover costs, I cannot promise that they will be
decisively cheaper in Suderburg. But here Edward Meyer has the experience.
The book that you mention would be an interesting read but neither
Dorothy or I read the German language!!!
As genalogical informations are very similar recorded in both languages, German
and English, it would probably be not to difficult to read and understand it with
help of an dictionary and find the answers. The problem will be the five-hundred
pages of the typoscript of potential interest get over in any form. If you come
to have M�LLER-dates reaching back with birth near to 1750 give me the
information and I might look for you. I have to mention, I do not own the book,
but have lent it accidentily out for the moment. I will try to prolongue the
lent, because once given back, it could be months to see it back again. Normal
place of this book is in the library of the Genealogische Gesellschaft Hamburg,
Alstertwiete 11, Hamburg.
In your reply, please include Dorothy. DotNolte1@aol.com Thank you for
your speedy help, this has been really rewarding---Bob Marhenke
Just for granted, as the cases are more often, one can not help, it is always
refreshing and delightful, if one can. Best wishes Hans Peter Albers