Thanks, Hans
Yes, when I was at SLC in 2007, I followed up four families. I believe one name mentioned I later found to have died in the same parish and two were not mine. One microfilm was not available for all the days we were there. Since we were in SLC for very limited time, I asked another person (the researcher who helped me there to do the follow-up; she did not find the film).
We have moved since then and I misplaced my SLC notes. Can you give me again the names and towns/villages of the four? I am reviewing all the records I checked. I asked my husband to research one family (I had to instruct him how to do it) and I am not sure if he did it right.
One of my handicaps is that I do not read German and some handwritings are hard to read. I believe, we had a hard time finding the correct name of one of the towns. I am looking for my notes and I would like to compare with you if we researched the correct towns.
Yes, Pam, most records are not indexed. I had spent a long time on those two Carl Kroegers I researched from Klutz. I was working on the baptismal, marriage and death registers simultaneously and I was only able to list three generations.
Thanks again to you all.
On behalf of Evelyn, she is looking for a Carl Krüger (or Kröger) (or Krieger) who was born about 1833 and would have arrived 1855. He was married in 1857 at St Johns in Detroit to Maria Simon, and one witness was Georg Krüger and one witness was Jacob Fisher. His first child was Mary Ann born in 1858, but that church record is not found. His second child was Henry born in 1860 and that church record was found at Trinity Lutheran in Detroit. However, that does not state origin of the parents. Her Carl and Maria were not found on the 1860 census but they were found on all later census. Still that doesn't tell town of origin.
One thing to consider also is that when Evelyn's Carl Krüger reported in 1900 that he had immigrated in 1855 that might not have been correct. Often times long after the fact they will not remember correctly. He could have immigrated in 1854 or 1853 etc. Evelyn concentrated on looking in Hamburg departures but her ancestor could have emigrated from another port also.
There are some Carl Krügers who immigrated alone in that time frame and there's no way to say for certain if anyone is hers without the appearance of a known family member aboard the same ship or a coroborating town name.
Her Carl Krüger's son Henry was born in 1860 in Detroit and baptised with the godparents : Joh Heinr Joachim Warnemünde, Maria Warnemünde, Wilhelmina Kock, Sim. Carl Joach. Ro?s , Gustav Fetter, Babbette Tietze. I still have the scan of Henry's baptism if this is needed.
Evelyn had researched the possibilty of a Carl Joachim Friedrich Kröger born 16 Dec 1833 (baptised 20 Dec 1833) in Oberdorf, Klütz Parish, Meck-Schwerin. His parents were Andreas Joachim Christian Kröger and Anna Maria Vogel.
I still have the notes that Evelyn sent me of her research at that time. I have the baptism of this Carl Joachim Friedrich Kröger which shows who his god parents were. This is hard for me to read but I could forward that to anyone who wants to try to interpret. At the time there was no concrete way to prove this was her Carl Krüger/Kröger other than a connection to Warnemündes in both cases and the birthdate of 1833.
The death record of her Carl Krüger gives an October birth month, but we also thought that could have been wrong based on the fact that his first wife Maria Simon died in 1882 and at the time of his death in 1919 he was with a 2nd wife and a step son who may not have known his true birthday. Also Carl had dementia in his later years.
I believe the Carl Krüger (shoemaker) born 1828 who arrived aboard the ship Washington 1855 is not the right one for Evelyn. This family of Krügers who arrived 1855 and originated in Babelin was found to live in Carrick, Canada. This Carl Krüger was married to Louise who was on the same ship and they are both on the 1861 Canadian Census.
What of the Carl Krüger, age 24, who departed Hamburg 1 Oct 1855 aboard the ship Donau ? Or I wonder if Evelyn's Carl Krüger might have actually arrived 1854, or 1853. Many times the immigrants do not remember the year correctly.