Mecklenburg Parish Records Posted (on behalf of Evelyn)

I'm working on a different lead, and hope someone might be able to assist:
I found a Carl Kruger/Kreiger on The Coprnicus out of Hamburg on 15 May
1855, arriving NY 23 June 1855. He is age 20, (close to the 1833 DOB
posted), and traveling with parents Carl and Sophia, ages 56 and 54 respectively.

Carl Sr, at age 56 in 1855, should have a DOB of about 1799-1800. On the
1819 census for Mecklenburg Schwerin, I found a Catharina Elisabeth Harder
Kroger, widow (b 12 May 1764 in Bruel(?)), Jochim (b 27 Jul 1794), Carl (b
6 Jan 1800),
and Christoph (b 19 Oct 1802)......the 3 boys born in Wismar, St Georg.

The Wismar records in the new Ancestry database only go back to 1902.
Does anyone know of any other online records for Wismar that might possibly
give a marrige for Carl Sr, and a birth for Carl Jr in 1833??

Hopefully this isn't a wild goose chase.

Linda

In a message dated 12/12/2009 9:54:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
netkitty@hotmail.com writes:

For those who might help Evelyn,

Her Carl Krüger's son Henry was born in 1860 in Detroit and baptised with
the godparents : Joh Heinr Joachim Warnemünde, Maria Warnemünde,
Wilhelmina Kock, Sim. Carl Joach. Ro?s , Gustav Fetter, Babbette Tietze. I
still have the scan of Henry's baptism if this is needed.

Evelyn had researched the possibilty of a Carl Joachim Friedrich Kröger
born 16 Dec 1833 (baptised 20 Dec 1833) in Oberdorf, Klütz Parish,
Meck-Schwerin. His parents were Andreas Joachim Christian Kröger and Anna Maria
Vogel.

I still have the notes that Evelyn sent me of her research at that time.
I have the baptism of this Carl Joachim Friedrich Kröger which shows who
his god parents were. This is hard for me to read but I could forward
that to anyone who wants to try to interpret. At the time there was
no concrete way to prove this was her Carl Krüger/Kröger other than a
connection to Warnemündes in both cases and the birthdate of 1833.

The death record of her Carl Krüger gives an October birth month, but we
also thought that could have been wrong based on the fact that his first
wife Maria Simon died in 1882 and at the time of his death in 1919 he was with
a 2nd wife and a step son who may not have known his true birthday.
Also Carl had dementia in his later years.

Please let's help Evelyn solve her mystery!

Thanks, Pam

Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:10:30 -0800
From: evkregear@yahoo.com
To: mecklenburg-l@genealogy.net
Subject: Re: [M-L] Mecklenburg Parish Records Posted

Thanks, Hans
Yes, when I was at SLC in 2007, I followed up four families. I believe

one name mentioned I later found to have died in the same parish and two
were not mine. One microfilm was not available for all the days we were there.
Since we were in SLC for very limited time, I asked another person (the
researcher who helped me there to do the follow-up; she did not find the
film).

We have moved since then and I misplaced my SLC notes. Can you give me

again the names and towns/villages of the four? I am reviewing all the
records I checked. I asked my husband to research one family (I had to instruct
him how to do it) and I am not sure if he did it right.

One of my handicaps is that I do not read German and some handwritings

are hard to read. I believe, we had a hard time finding the correct name of
one of the towns. I am looking for my notes and I would like to compare
with you if we researched the correct towns.

Yes, Pam, most records are not indexed. I had spent a long time on those

two Carl Kroegers I researched from Klutz. I was working on the baptismal,
marriage and death registers simultaneously and I was only able to list
three generations.

Thanks again to you all.

> From: hjkrull@aol.com <hjkrull@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [M-L] Mecklenburg Parish Records Posted
> To: mecklenburg-l@genealogy.net
> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:00 AM
> Hi Evelyn,
> only 4 families arrived in 1855. Did you check them ?
>
>
> Greetings from Hamburg
> Hans Juergen Krull
> _http://www.genealogy.com/users/k/r/u/Hans-juergen-Krull_
>
> (http://www.genealogy.com/users/k/r/u/Hans-juergen-Krull)
>
> _http://krull.tribalpages.com_ (http://krull.tribalpages.com/\)
> For regional research in my files
> _http://www.gedbas.genealogy.net/index.jsp_

(GEDBAS: New search)

Check also for this family in Basedow, Mecklenburg. I had checked the departing Hamburg ship list for this voyage and the family is listed as origin Basedow, Meck.

Hi all,
Pam (she's my best helper) and I had the same idea about that particular family on Copernicus. I believe the Basedow origin had been looked at by us in SLC, but since I am re-tracing my steps, I'll send for Basedow and Wismar records tomorrow at our local LDS.
There will be a 2-3 weeks wait, but I'll survive!!!
Thanks again.
Evelyn

Hi Evelyn and all,

I checked for the 3 Krügers who were on the Copernicus 1855, and I found them on the 1860 census living in Michigan City, Indiana. Folllwoing through to the 1900 Census the one named Johann Carl Krüger indicated that he had immigrated in 1855. It was interesting to note that on the Hamburg list of the Copernicus he was called "Johann" and on the NYC ship list for arrivals he was called "Carl". Later in census he was calling himself John. I think the Copernicus 1855 with the Krügers from Basedow is ruled out.

I am still wondering about the Carl Krüger (age 24) who salied 1 Oct 1844 aboard the Donau and arrived NYC 5 Nov 1855. There was also a Carl Krüger (age 24) who sailed aboard the Raleigh arriving 12 Jun 1854 with origin listed as Maldevin.

There are a few others that sailed from Bremen also.

Good luck, Pam