To Allen Bernard:
I thought I may have hit the jackpot when I read all the above names in
your message of 14 Feb. The surnames are all in my husband's family tree, yet
I can't place any of the ones you mention. I'd love to know more about them
to see if I can relate to any of them.
What I have is:
Luers:
Johan Arnold Luers married Catharina Maria Niemann also known as Kötter.
They produced Johan Antonius Luers, baptized at St Laurentius Catholic
Church, Langförden, Oldenburg on 12 Oct 1740. The relevant names from the bap.
record are Joes Arnoldus Luers Catharina Maria Nieman sive Kotter Joes
Antonius Joes Stincker Cath. Elisabeth Luers. (I have no more descendants for
this line since it is a brother of the wife, Catharina, who is the ancestor of
my husband.)
Ahlers:
Catharina Ahlers married Johan Tebben also known as Osterhus (b. 10 Feb
1707). They produced Johan Henrich Tebben (b. 10 May 1733) and Johan Alard
Osterhus also known as Tebben or Nemann (b. 19 April 1736.
Johan Henrich's baptism record says "1733 10 May [parents] Johan
Tebben Catharina Ahlers [child] Joannes Henricus [witnesses] Anthon Tebben
Veronica Cath. Jedding [?]" His burial record says "Viduus Joan Henricus
Tebbe nat. Osterhus Provisor zu Holtrup 72 putoralis [or] pestoralis."
He died 28 Dec 1804. He married Anna Catharina Schele 19 Oct 1756 and they had
2 (or more) children.
The baptism record for Johan Alard is "1736 [number] 123 19 Apri.
Parentes Joannes Tebbe Catharina Alers Baptizati Joannes Alardus
Patrini Joes Stincker Anna Linneman. His burial record says Mar. Joannes
Alard Nemann natus Osterhus in Holtr 63 Colica". His death was 13 Jan
1795.
He married Maria Gertrud Nemann sive Kaeter on 10 Jul 1759. The marriage
record indicates that they were related. "1759 10 Julii Joan Alerd Tebbe.
Maria Gerdrud Niman. Testes Joan Arnd Tebbe Ludolph Niman
1760? [or 1766] d. 26 mart obtenta dispens...4ta gradus consang...
validarunt matrimoniti coram ma Hoygn Pastor ...tastibus Anna Cath: Nemann Joseph
Stineker." They had 10 children. I have descendants of one of them, Joannes
Henricus Neemann (bap. 9 May 1763). He married Catharina Gertrud Westerkamp.
Neemann (5), Neman (1), Nemann (16), Nieman (2), Niemann (8)
That's too many to put in one message, but I will share any information an
any of these.
Pundsack
A long line going back to a marriage in 1736 of Frantz Wilhelm Pundsack and
Anna Catharina Wichardtz or Wichas or Wiggers of Goldenstätt.
Macke
12 names going back to Johan Henrich Macke born (calculated) 1753/1754. He
married Maria Catharina Stuntebecke on 18 Nov 1782. They were from Haverbeck
and had five children of which I have descendants of one; she married a Deters.
I have more on these people and will be happy to share. All of these records
came from microfilm of various parishes in Oldenburg Duchy. If anyone wants
precise details I will give them.
If anyone has put together these records in a different way, I'd also like
to hear about that.
Nancy Pundsack
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Oldenburg-L@genealogy.net
I would love precise details concerning the Macke data. I have
several Johann Heinrichs in my line, the most distant of which at
present is:
Johann Heinrich Macke married to Anna Adelheid Schoo. Their son,
Johann Bernard born circa 1804 married Helena Adelheid Alvers who in
turn produced the children who emmigrated to the U.S. The families
are Roman Catholic from the area of Lengerich and Biene near Lingen.
Even if the individuals in question are not in my direct line, I have
been meaning to sort out the Cincinnati, Ohio Mackes at some point.
The Pendleton District of the city had a regular infestation of them
at one time and most originated in the Hannover/Oldenburg area.
Your names have come up quite frequently in my researches. The
Ahlers name is also in my line. I would be happy to share what I
have if you're interested.
the Macke's in Lingen area (Hannover) an Damme area (Oldenburg) are both catholics, but I think, the origin is different - too far away.
Werner Honkomp
Nancy,
I would love precise details concerning the Macke data. I have
several Johann Heinrichs in my line, the most distant of which at
present is:
Johann Heinrich Macke married to Anna Adelheid Schoo. Their son,
Johann Bernard born circa 1804 married Helena Adelheid Alvers who in
turn produced the children who emmigrated to the U.S. The families
are Roman Catholic from the area of Lengerich and Biene near Lingen.
Even if the individuals in question are not in my direct line, I have
been meaning to sort out the Cincinnati, Ohio Mackes at some point.
The Pendleton District of the city had a regular infestation of them
at one time and most originated in the Hannover/Oldenburg area.
Your names have come up quite frequently in my researches. The
Ahlers name is also in my line. I would be happy to share what I
have if you're interested.
Dan Macke
Oldenburg-L mailing list
Oldenburg-L@genealogy.net
I don't expect to find any of my direct ancestors in the Damme area,
but there were very many Mackes in the Cincinnati area who were from
that area. I suspect that the Lingen/Biene Mackes originated farther
east and there could possibly be a connection in the distant past.
The were almost certainly a few Hollandgänger in the group and
perhaps one or two didn't complete the trip at some point.
As you probably know, Cincinnati, Ohio had a huge German population
in the 1800's and it was often the second stop on the journey to a
new home for many German immigrants. Some remained in Cincinnati and
others moved on from there after a short stay. Many can be found not
far from the railroad lines leading out of the city. Also, just
west of Cincinnati is the town of Oldenburg, Indiana, which was
settled by north Germans (obviously).
Cincinnati had a very strong North German connection, with many
plattdeutsche Vereine and Gesellschaften. Cincinnati also had
several German language newspapers, which are a rich source of
information. Some day I intend to sort out the many Mackes of the
Cincinnati German community and any information is welcome. I am
certain that they were all acquainted with each other in the city
because most lived within a few streets of each other and probably
attended the same churches and drinking establishments.