LINZ family

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� Hi Kristen:

   Have a couple of questions first:

   You state that the name "Hugo" was used� by Mr. Linz for official
   documents, but you list the emmigration date as "ca 1838".� Have you
   seen the document(s)?

   You state that he declared his intention for citizenship in 1839, but
   you seem uncertain as to when he received it.� Same question here.�
   Have you seen the document(s)?

   Even though he applied for a passport, did he leave the country?

   The reason I ask these questions is:� Are these dates and� names
   hard� facts?�

   � I found the following on [1]WWW.CastleGarden.Org

   �

   [2]First name [3]Last name [4]Occupation [5]Age [6]Sex [7]Arrived
   [8]Origin [9]Ship
   GEORG CHRISTOFR. [10]STEINGRANDT PRIVATEER 46 M 17 May 1838 GERMANY
   ISABELLA
   DOROTHEA [11]STEINGRANDT WIFE 43 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
   LOUISE [12]STEINGRANDT DAUGHTER 20 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
   MARIA [13]STEINGRANDT DAUGHTER 18 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
   SOPHIA [14]STEINGRANDT DAUGHTER 17 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
   HEINRICH [15]STEINGRANDT SON 15 M 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
   LOUIS [16]STEINGRANDT SON 14 M 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA

   � Another problem is that there are so many given names for both
   Francis and Dorothea.� If they had relatives with the same first
   name, they would likely be known by their second given name.� An
   example would be Francis, who was known as Hugo.� His father may have
   been Francis and he had an older brother named Joseph, thus he used
   his third given name.� Now this is supposition, but I believe it
   would have a better than a 50-50 accuracy.� Notice in the Steingrandt
   info listed above.� There is a Dorothea, a Sophia, and a Maria. three
   of the given names you have for Dorothea.� In this case Dorothea was
   the mother, so she would be known as Sophia.� � (My last supposition
   is made assuming that this is Dorothea's family, which it may not be.

   � Now about Hannover.� Do you mean the city of Hannover, or the
   Kingdom of Hannover?� The KOH is quite large.

   � Maybe there is a town or villiage by the name of Linden in the
   KOH.� If so, you might get a lead on Dorothea and possibly Francis as
   they might have known each other before coming to the States.

   Sorry, I am raining on your parade, but don't give up, there are a lot
   of people on this list who may be able to provide you with assistance.

   Open question:� � What's a "Privateer"?

   Gale

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Hi Gale
   
  These are the OFFICIAL documents I have for Hugo (sometimes it was Hugh)
   
  -Declaration of intention
  -Land patent
  -Passport application
  -Marriage record
   
  I have a newspaper article on the Steingrandts' 50th wedding anniversary in 1868 that one sister was back in Germany, and that they had not seen her in 20 years (this would match with the 1847 passport application).
   
  I have all the information I can possibly have on the Steingrandts, including the immigration on the Ship Isabella (I have an ancestry.com subscription, so I have access to all this stuff already).
   
  Linden is immediately outside the city of Hannover...you can find it on any map directly to the west of the city. It's basically a suburb of Hannover.
   
  What I'm looking for is info on the Linz family, not the Steingrandts.
   
  Thanks

gale@bosche.info wrote:
  
 Hi Kristen:

Have a couple of questions first:

You state that the name "Hugo" was used by Mr. Linz for official
documents, but you list the emmigration date as "ca 1838". Have you
seen the document(s)?

You state that he declared his intention for citizenship in 1839, but
you seem uncertain as to when he received it. Same question here.Â
Have you seen the document(s)?

Even though he applied for a passport, did he leave the country?

The reason I ask these questions is: Are these dates and names
hard facts?Â

 I found the following on [1]WWW.CastleGarden.Org

Â

[2]First name [3]Last name [4]Occupation [5]Age [6]Sex [7]Arrived
[8]Origin [9]Ship
GEORG CHRISTOFR. [10]STEINGRANDT PRIVATEER 46 M 17 May 1838 GERMANY
ISABELLA
DOROTHEA [11]STEINGRANDT WIFE 43 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
LOUISE [12]STEINGRANDT DAUGHTER 20 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
MARIA [13]STEINGRANDT DAUGHTER 18 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
SOPHIA [14]STEINGRANDT DAUGHTER 17 F 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
HEINRICH [15]STEINGRANDT SON 15 M 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA
LOUIS [16]STEINGRANDT SON 14 M 17 May 1838 GERMANY ISABELLA

 Another problem is that there are so many given names for both
Francis and Dorothea. If they had relatives with the same first
name, they would likely be known by their second given name. An
example would be Francis, who was known as Hugo. His father may have
been Francis and he had an older brother named Joseph, thus he used
his third given name. Now this is supposition, but I believe it
would have a better than a 50-50 accuracy. Notice in the Steingrandt
info listed above. There is a Dorothea, a Sophia, and a Maria. three
of the given names you have for Dorothea. In this case Dorothea was
the mother, so she would be known as Sophia.  (My last supposition
is made assuming that this is Dorothea's family, which it may not be.

 Now about Hannover. Do you mean the city of Hannover, or the
Kingdom of Hannover? The KOH is quite large.

 Maybe there is a town or villiage by the name of Linden in the
KOH. If so, you might get a lead on Dorothea and possibly Francis as
they might have known each other before coming to the States.

Sorry, I am raining on your parade, but don't give up, there are a lot
of people on this list who may be able to provide you with assistance.

Open question:Â Â What's a "Privateer"?

Gale

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Hi Kristen,

there used to be more than one town named Linden in Prussia. Check:
http://www.gemeindeverzeichnis.de/gem1900/gem1900.htm?hannover/rb_hannover.htm

Maybe I found a trace of Hugo LINZ.
Chek this link:http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/

Pfad: Home > über Archive > Hauptstaatsarchiv Hannover > Staatshochbauamt
Hannover I vor 194... > Archivalien AIDA
or search for the last name. Most of the results refer to the Austrian town
Linz.

This is the entry:
Staatshochbauamt Hannover I vor 1945
Einzelne Personalakten
Bauschreiber Hugo Linz, Kiel
This is the order number of his file: Hann. 100 Hannover I Nr. 11

I believe LINZ was an employee of 'Staatshochbauamt' ( administration,
responsible for public building), born /or former resident of Kiel,
Schleswig Holstein.
I am sure his file contains his birthdate- and place.

You can't look at the file online. This is just a 'Findbuch', the files are
listed with their title, year, the place where they are kept and sometimes a
brief summary.
or search for the last name. Most of the results refer to the Austrian town
Linz.

Unusual last name in the Hannover area. There are only nine Linz listed in
the Hannover telefone book this year.

(Hannover) Linden used to be a 'Kreis' with several small villages belonging
to it. Today it is part of the town of Hannover.

Good luck,
Iris