Hallo Alles!
I am looking for information on members of the Korf family from Sonneborn,
Lippe, who immigrated to America. Is there an Auswanderer list that would have
information for that area?
Several of the Korf family would have immigrated in the 1800's. A later
immigrant was Frederick Korf who immigrated in 1910.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Gruße,
Gloria Landwer Scott
Hello Gloria,
I have a book about emigration from Lippe (listing more than 10000
emigrants). If you give me the details about your family I will search for
them.
There is also a mailing list for the Lippe area. I can give you the details
if you are interested in this.
Uta
Hallo Uta,
habe Deine Mail an Gloria gelesen.
Ich w�re auch an der Auswanderungsliste Lippe interessiert f�r den Namen
Tigges (evtl. noch Thies/Thie�)
Ich vermute, er kommt dort vor. Die mailing list lautet wie genau?
Schon mal vielen Dank f�r Deine Bem�hungen.
Sch�nen Gru�
Michael T igges, Limburg
Hi could you find out if KELTERBORN is on this list
Yhanks lilo
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From: Uta H�rtling <haertlin@student.uni-kassel.de>
To: "Familienforschung/Genealogy in Westfalen [bilingual, offene Liste]"
<westfalen-l@genealogy.net>
Subject: Re: [WFA] Korf immigrants from Sonneborn
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:33:27 +0200
Reply-To: "Familienforschung/Genealogy in Westfalen [bilingual, offene
Liste]"
Hello Gloria,
I have a book about emigration from Lippe (listing more than 10000
emigrants). If you give me the details about your family I will search for
them.
There is also a mailing list for the Lippe area. I can give you the details
if you are interested in this.
UtaNot Gloria but am searching for information on family Hermann Henrich
Hasenjaeger born in Evangelische,Augustdorf,Lippe,Germany.Do not know when he was born. Married Henriette Amalie Rabe 27 Jan 1839 she also was born in the same place.Had three children Bernd Christened 21 Oct 1838.Henry Toens born 1841,Grandfather came to America 1843 and died 1913 in Cairo, Illinois ,Wilhelmine christened 5 Dec 1852.Can not find how Henry came to the America or any other information on them.Any
information would be appreciated. Thank you Vivian Trimpl trimplv@wyoming.com.
Hello Vivian and everybody else who is searching for emigrants from Lippe
(-Detmold),
I am willing to do lookups in my two books about emigrants from Lippe, if
you send me detailed information about your families. Just a name is not
enough, I have to do much additional work then. Of course I give you the
names of all emigrants that seem to be connected to your anestors, so don't
fear that you do not get all the information that might be helpful. It might
take a few days until you get your response, because right now I am ill and
not able to work on my computer for a long time (some chronic infection with
terrible headaches, the blood test will show what it really is).
Please mark that Lippe (-Detmold) and Schaumburg-Lippe are different areas,
though there are some political connections in the past. So my emigrants'
list is not the same as that for the Schaumburg-Lippe area, and I don't
think that it's available on the Internet.
I will also send the address and instruction how to join the Lippe mailing
list in a separate message.
Now to Vivians emigrants:
Just as a general remark in the beginning I want to let you know that
Hasenj�ger was a common name in Bexterhagen (parish Sch�tmar, Lippe), and
that it is possible that the ancestors of your emigrant were actually from
this town.
There are not many Hasenj�ger entries in my book, so I give you all of them:
From the list with emigrants up to 1877:
Hasenj�ger of Bexterhagen (no first name given), soldier
emigrated on Feb. 21, 1846 to America
signature: 1554/22
Johann Friedrich Hasenj�ger of Lockhausen (parish Sch�tmar), Dienstknecht
(father: Johann Berend Hasenj�ger, Einlieger)
emigrated on Aug. 19, 1852 to America (obviously only the son)
Christoph Kamp or Kampe of Werl (parish Sch�tmar), Einlieger
with him:
his wife, her birthname is Hasenj�ger,
two sons and a daughter under age 14,
his father-in-law Bernd Hasenj�ger, Einlieger and widower
all of them emigrated on Aug. 1, 1854 to America
The original source of these three entries was this:
Akten des Amtes Sch�tmar "Auswanderungen 1824 bis 1877" (emigration files of
the Sch�tmar area 1824-1877)
It might be of interest to have a look on the originals if you are connected
to these families. It is possible that these emigration files contain many
details about the reasons for emigration and what the familes owned. The
emigration dates are the dates when the consent for emigration was given,
not the date when they actually departed.
The list with emigrants from 1878 to 1900 does not mention any Hasenj�gers.
I hope this helps you to find out more.
Uta
Hi, Uta.
My ancestors, the WATERHOELTERs/WATERHOLTERs
came from the Lippe-Detmold area, from a place called
Wissentrup.
Would it be possible to assist me with this?
Thanks!
Pat McCoy
Hi Pat,
We have been in contact before, and though I may not have told you, I
checked your family (I still have the details about them) a long time ago.
There are no Waterh�lters in either of my books about emigration from Lippe
(first book: emigration up to 1877, second book: emigration between 1878 and
1900). I also checked the names Watermann and Watermeier without result
(there are some families of these names, but they are not yours nor from
Wissentrup).
I also checked the birthname of your ancestors wife without result.
There are three possibilities now:
1. They were illegal emigrants
2. Their records did not survive or where not found when these books were
compiled
3. Your ancestors could have had a second family name which they sometimes
used. This was quite common in Lippe, though, at that time, it would usually
be in the records as well.
For all others:
I CAN ONLY REPEAT THAT I WON'T DO ANY LOOKUPS WITHOUT PRECISE INFORMATION. A
research with just a name to search causes much additional work. I need the
first names, bithname of the wife if known, approximate birthdates for all
family members and the time of emigration.
Uta
Hallo Vivian, hallo Uta,
fand bei GOOGLE unter
http://mitglied.lycos.de/histagschaumburg/Auswanderer_name.php
3 Hasenj�ger eingetragen.
Viel Erfolg.
Gru� Michael Tigges
Hallo Vivian, hallo Uta,
fand bei GOOGLE unter
http://mitglied.lycos.de/histagschaumburg/Auswanderer_name.php
3 Hasenj�ger eingetragen.Viel Erfolg.
Gru� Michael TiggesFrom: Uta H�rtling <haertlin@student.uni-kassel.de>
To: Familienforschung/Genealogy in Westfalen [bilingual, offene Liste]
<westfalen-l@genealogy.net>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WFA] Hasenjaeger emigrants from Lippe> > > >
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> Thank you for the information I have made a hard copy and will study it. Vivian Trimpl
Hallo Michael,
da Du keine genauen Angaben zu Deinen Tigges oder Thies gemacht hast, hier
erstmal nur eine �bersicht. Suchst Du alle Familien dieses Namens oder nur
Deine Vorfahren und ihre unmittelbaren Angeh�rigen? Solche
Nachschlagarbeiten f�r andere Forscher k�nnen viel Arbeit machen, daher
m�glichst mit ausf�hrlichen Daten anfragen.
Hier der �berblick:
bis 1877
7x Thies
1x Tigges (s.u.)
1878-1900
4x Thies
1x Tieges
Folgender Eintrag Tigges:
Friedrich Tigges aus Reelkirchen, Landwirt und Bauerrichter
&
Amalia Kaiser aus Belle
mit 10 Kindern (genannt ist nur Johann Jobst Henrich Ernst *8.8.1840
ausgewandert im Sept. 1854
Quelle: Amtlich bekanntgegebene Auswanderungen 1843 bis 1877 (Lippisches
Regierungs- und Anzeigeblatt ab 1843), S. 467
- Da klingt eigentlich nicht so, als w�re dort noch viel mehr zu erfahren.
Viele Gr��e aus Kassel!
Uta
Hallo Uta,
vielen Dank f�r Deine Informationen zu den auswandernden Thies und Tigges
aus Lippe-Detmold.
Mir geht es in der Tat um alle westf�lischen Personen dieser Namen, wobei
der 2. oft aus dem 1. kam.
In Lippe, bes. Reelkirchen, lebten viele Tigges/Thies in fr�heren
Jahrhunderten.
Die Auswandererfamilie Tigges(meier) & Kaiser war mir schon etwas bekannt.
Auch das der �lteste Sohn in den USA starb um 1917. Der von Dir genannte
Johann Henrich Ernst * 8.8.1840 taucht bei mir als Johann Jobst ~ 16. 8.
1840 auf. Wenn es keine Zwillinge waren, dann ist der Name evtl. zu
erg�nzen. Ich versuche meine Listen zu komplettieren udn auch zu
berichtigen, falls Fehllesungen etc. darin stecken. An den anderen Thies und
bes. Tieges bin ich auch interessiert. Noch weiss ich nicht, woher meine
Familie urspr�nglich herstammte. Zwar d�rften es eher kath. Gegenden sein,
als evangelische, aber wer weiss das schon so genau. Bitte lass Dir Zeit und
ich w�rde mich sehr freuen auch die anderen INfos von Dir zu erhalten.Vielen
Dank f�r Deine Bem�hungen.
MfG
Michael Tigges, Limburg
Hallo Michael,
da habe ich Dich ja fast zwei Monate warten lassen. Aber: was lange w�hrt
wird endlich gut. Hier kommen also die Thies und Thiesmeier bis 1877, die
von 1878 bis 1900 lasse ich sp�ter folgen.
Viele Gr��e!
Uta
Thies:
XI 28:
THIES oder VIESSMANN aus H�rste Nr. 29, Kolon, mit Familie
1846 ausgewandert
XI 84:
Friedrich THIES aus Brakelsiek Nr. 41
Ende M�rz 1847 ausgewandert
XI 985:
Friedrich THIES aus Hummersen Nr. 26, Kolon, mit Ehefrau u. 2 Kindern
(verwandt mit Leibz�chter TIEMANN, mit Fam.)
Fr�hj. 1854 ausgewandert
XI 1491
Heinrich THIES aus Ruensiek, Einlieger, mit Frau und den T�chtern Luise und
Amalie
Fr�hj. 1858 ausgewandert
XI 1868
August THIES aus Brakelsiek, Einlieger, mit Frau und Stiefsohn August THIES
(15 J.)
Apr. 1868 ausgewandert
XI 1906
Georg RINKER oder THIES aus Brakelsiek, 19 J.
Apr. 1868 ausgewandert
XI 1943
Heinrich THIES aus Brakelsiek, 17 J.
Ende Apr. 1868 ausgewandert
Thiesmeier:
V 791
Georg RINKER aus Brakelsiek Nr. 77, 18 J. (Stiefvater: Interimswirt
THIESMEIER in Brakelsiek Nr. 11), mit Familie
4.4.1868 ausgewandert nach Amerika
V 1165
Friedrich Ludwig EGGERTS-NOLTE oder THIESMEIER aus Oberw�sten Nr. 21 [Gem.
W�sten], Kaufmann, *20.12.1858 (Vater: Kolon Friedrich Emil Theodor
THIESMEIER in Oberw�sten, Mutter: Louise Marie Dorothea geb. STEINKAMP), der
Bruder des Vaters ist bereits in Amerika
29.5.1874 ausgewandert nach Amerika
XI 1915
Adolph FIENE aus Lothe Nr. 29, Braut: Amalie THIESMEIER aus Brakelsiek Nr.
11
Apr. 1868 ausgewandert