:Lisa,
John and Mary came with Harmon or Herman at the same time. In fact they are on the 1850 census with the spelling of Kors or Kars, with Mary and Bernard H. I think that their land was only one or two away from where Herman and his Mary were.
Paula
1. Re: Koors/Kors/Kars (Lisa Niemeyer)
Paula- with the mention below of tombstone markers in Covington KY, do
you think they moved back from Effingham to the Cincy/ Covington area? In
1860 it says Harmon/ Herman was a farmer but the house number was in the
City of Effingham. I checked the other spellings and did not find the John
& Mary you are looking for. If I can be of further assistance for
Effingham records, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Lisa
I am looking for advice on researching in Cincinnati and the Covington, KY
areas. I have sent a request for sacramental records for the Niemeyer's
and Kerk's but have not heard back yet from the Archives of the Church yet.
I've noticed some listers mention cemetery records and city directories in
Cincy and Covington, KY. Are any of these resources online? Would a
subscription to ancesty.com be worthwhile? Like I said, I feel I'm at a
brick wall and looking for some advice on what's available for these areas.
I know that my ancestor John Henry Niemeyer applied for citizenship in Cincy
in 1844, and was born in Germany in 1820. He married Catherine Maria Kerk (
Kark / Karch) in 1846 in Cincy. I believe he had other family in the Cincy
and Covington, KY area because a Frederick Niemeyer was a witness to the
wedding, but don't know if he was a brother/ cousin or if related at all.
John Henry and Catherine moved to Teutopolis, IL in 1847. Family stories
passed on says there was family that stayed in Cincy and the Covington, KY
area. Other names I want to look for in the Cincy area are Catherine
Maria' Kerk's parents John Jacob Kerk and Maria Adeleide Kerk also known
to be in Cincy in the 1840's. One of the family stories mentioned loosing
some family in the cholera epidemic that swept through the city in the late
1840's.
Thanks,
Lisa Niemeyer
I am looking for advice on researching in Cincinnati and the Covington, KY
areas. I have sent a request for sacramental records for the Niemeyer's
and Kerk's but have not heard back yet from the Archives of the Church yet.
If you know what church your Niemeyers were affiliated with this is probably the best route. Even so the records you may receive may not be very enlightening. I have Robers ancestors who lived in Cincinnati in the 1840s and 1850s. Their St. Mary's marriage record gives just the name of the bride, groom, witnesses and dates, no ages, birthplace, or parents' names.
I've noticed some listers mention cemetery records and city directories in
Cincy and Covington, KY. Are any of these resources online? Would a
subscription to ancesty.com be worthwhile? Like I said, I feel I'm at a
brick wall and looking for some advice on what's available for these areas.
Which way is your brick wall, back in time to Oldenburg (I assume they were from there since you're posting on an Oldenburg list) or after they came to Ohio?
ancestry.com is fine for census work but doesn't have much in the way of early Cincinnati directories. But the 1840-1900 censuses show a handful of Niemeyer/Niemeier families there and a few Kark/Kerk/Karch families. If your local library subscribes to ancestry.com you might not need a subscription.
I know that my ancestor John Henry Niemeyer applied for citizenship in Cincy
in 1844, and was born in Germany in 1820. He married Catherine Maria Kerk (
Kark / Karch) in 1846 in Cincy. I believe he had other family in the Cincy
and Covington, KY area because a Frederick Niemeyer was a witness to the
wedding, but don't know if he was a brother/ cousin or if related at all.
There's a good chance that this indicates a relationship of some kind, but you likely won't be able to prove it unless you find birth records for them in their town of origin in Germany, or unless the marriage record indicates a relationship. Another option: see whether you can find a death record for your John Henry Niemeyer in IL and Frederick in Ohio. Those may give parents' names.
In the 1870 census there's a Frederick Niemeyer, born about 1823, living in Cincinnati and married to a Mary, but he reports being from Hannover not Oldenburg. The only John Niemeyer I can find in Illinois, born in 1820, was married to a Theresia, not Catherine or Mary, and he was from Hannover as well.
There's a death of a John H. Niemeyer on 09/30/1878 in Teutopolis, Effingham County, IL; perhaps the son of your German-born John Henry? IL deaths are searchable online here:
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/deathsrch.html
Steve Hellmann's suggestion about the Kenton County library may be helpful too. I found some family members from Cincinnati who had resettled in Covington and found some obits that helped fill in family details.
Regards,
Debra
http://sakionline.net/familypage
Oldenburg families: Bruns, Oldehues, von Oven, Melchers
Lisa
You will like this. Kenton County, Kentucky Public Library web site.
http://www.kenton.lib.ky.us/
click on Genealogy & KY History
click on geNKY (Northern KY Genealogy Index)
two different items to search.
1st
Search the Northern Kentucky Genealogy Databases
type in a name to search on.
2nd
on the left notice the picture. Click on it.
on the left again....in the Photo Search type a name to search on....then click on the right arrow to search photo search.
Thanks
Steve Hellmann of Edgewood, KY
Lisa
Both of my parents were born and raised in Cincinnati and we currently live in St. Louis. My mom's ancestors first arrived there in 1835. I have done research in Cincinnati, but mostly I've done it from home in St. Louis. I have been frustrated, too, by the lack of records for Cincinnati that are available online. The Archdiocese of Cincinnati takes a VERY long time to hear from and have a great many restrictions and rules on requests.
I have a membership to Ancestry.com and they currently have two Cincinnati directories that I know of. One is from 1877 and the other about 1895. They also have Ohio deaths from 1908 through the 2000's. Not all years available. The earlier deaths only give a name and death date.
The Family History Library offers the Cincinnati Catholic Cemetery Statistics on microfilm. Sometimes there is valuable info offered on them, but like a death certificate, some of the info is only as good as the informant. But...a clue is a clue.
Our local public library has a vast offering of genealogy information and they have some indexes to marriages, church burials, etc. that have been written up on Hamilton County.
Good luck on your Cincinnati search!
Becky Koelling
Another good source is heritagequest.com.
Is available online via many local libraries. Just have to have a library card to use it. AND IT IS FREE TO USE! Has census info as well as other. And you can have a library card at many libraries--even if you don't live there.
Carol
I want to thank everyone that sent resources for my research of the Cincy
areas. I am quite impressed with what Kenton Co. Library site has to offer!
It has already given me a few leads to follow, which you are right a clue is
a clue.
D.L. MacLaughlan- Dumas: you asked me where my brick wall was, and it is
finding the town in Germany from which my ancestral Niemeyer's came from and
when they came. I haven't found an exact match on the German lists or ship
lists either. And yes I do think they probably came from Hannover and not
Oldenburg. I guess I just noticed more postings regarding databases and
researching in the Cincy area. I do have the obituary of the immigrant John
Henry Niemeyer, and to my dismay doesn't say anything about where he came
from or who is parents or brothers were. It just mentions family coming
from Cincy for the services. So my hope is to try and find a brother, who
may have put somewhere on some document a town where they came from in
Germany or when.
Again, I thank the Listers for your assistance!
Lisa Niemeyer
Have you tried a Google search for "johann heinrich niemeyer" (including
the quotation marks)? I found quite a number of hits.
A number of my family members are from the area east of Osnabr�ck, which
comes up "Hannover" in a lot of census records. These people settled in
the southeast Indiana, Cincinnati, northern Kentucky area.
I realize Niemeyer is a very common name, so the above might not be any
help, but just in case.....
Good luck!
Marilyn
Hello Lisa,
in North-West of Germany is Niemeyer a common name - check this URL:
http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/v3/Default.aspx
There are catholics and lutherans area - is your John Henry Niemeyer catholic?
The emigration book of the catholic area Lingen / Ems (former Hannover province) listed some Niemeyers, but not yours.
The next one is:
Johann Henrich Niemeyer, born 30.Aug.1812 in the village Bernte, parish Emsbühren,
also the brothers Gerhard Henrich born 1822 and Gerhard Johann born 1815 and the sisters Margaretha Adelheid and Maria Adelheid - no emigration date is given.
You can find the name also in Oldenburg province - Cloppenburg area.
Good luck,
Werner Honkomp