Did you by chance check the direct list?
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On Fri 12/18/09 10:03 AM , PJ Vazquez netkitty@hotmail.com sent:
Thanks Rena,
What I really am looking for is what ship would have taken my Klug
family from Hamburg to Liverpool, England? I had been assuming that
they started their voyage aboard the SS Republic but when I looked
through the list of indirect voyages I never find it. So then I
realized that they must not have set sail from Hamburg aboard the SS
Republic, but were probably on a smaller ship. They must have just
boarded the SS Republic in Liverpool. Any ideas?
I could check the Hamburg list for all ships from Jan 1874 through
April 1874 and look line by line.
Best wishes, Pam
> From: rena.mackenzie@virgin.net [1]
> To: hannover-l@genealogy.net [2]
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:19:58 +0000
> Subject: [HN] Klug - SS Republic arriving 24 Apr 1874
>
> Hello again,
> Queenstown (Cobh) is in the County of Cork, southern Ireland and
it was the
> last port of call that the great steam ship Titanic made after it
too
> departed from Liverpool, England.
>
http://www.theirishriviera.com/index.php?Itemid=332&id=18&option=com_content&task=view
[3]
>
> Unfortunately I do not think you will find any record of your Klug
family's
> travel across England, as after 1869 the British Home Office
preserved the
> passenger lists for only five years after which they were
destroyed.
> Although I see there are a few surviving lists which were kept by
another
> Office and are now on ancestry.co.uk but they start from 1878. I
looked
> for a website which I bookmarked a few years ago which showed old
pictures
> of customs houses which your ancestor would have to wait in and
also had
> painting of the ships arriving in ports that ferried passengers
from Germany
> to England but the link is no longer available, which is sad
because it
> would have shown what your ancestors would have experienced.
>
> I also looked at this website in case your ancestor had sailed
from Denmark
> but no Klug sailed in that year
> http://personal.inet.fi/yhdistys/centralin/swe/emi_ref.htm [4]
>
> I was hoping I might find mention of your family's bakery business
on this
> website but there were too many pages to search through
> http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ [5]
>
> Have you looked at the Card Catalogue on ancestry.co.uk? At the
bottom of
> this page you will see "Browse Dabatases". This is an alphabetic
A,B,C
> listing so you have to think outside the box: I found my German
ancestors
> living in Gross Mahner listed in an old 19th century Hannover
address book .
> Also I found my Scottish ancestors in a 1747 list of deported
prisoners.
> Card Catalog - Ancestry.com [6]
>
> Good Luck,
> Rena
> =
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:28:49 -0600
> From: Cactus Flower
> Dear Rena and Listies,
>
> Have been curious about that.
> Have always used online clues to locate library microfilm records
to confirm
> my own family research, but I believe not all are indexed.
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> The situation which you describe? Europe to English or Irish
port...
> Indirect List? Not all all indexed.
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> I have a question about Queenstown though. I have always thout of
> Queenstown as a place located in Austrailia.
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> That is no where near Ireland, or Brittish ports. Is there another
locality
> called Queensland?
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> Warmest Regards,
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> Barbie-Lew
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> P.S. Please forgive my lack of knowledge. I wouldn't ever read a
list if I
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> > From: rena.mackenzie@virgin.net [8]
> > To: hannover-l@genealogy.net [9]
> > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:09:25 +0000
> > Subject: [HN] Klug - SS Republic arriving 24 Apr 1874
> >
> > Hello Pam,
> >
> > Your ancestor probably organised his journey through a travel
agent and I
> > think you'll possibly find that the ship line owners of SS
Republic only
> > operated out of Liverpool and Ireland. It was cheaper to sail to
an
> > English port on the eastern coast such as Hull and travel across
the
> > country
> > by train to Liverpool. I believe records show that annually this
is what 2
> > million mainland Europeans did. One of the ship lines operating
out of
> > Hull
> > to Holland and Germany was the Wilson Line and somewhere online
there is a
> > poster which shows their ship arrival/departures and it also
lists train
> > timetables from Hull to Liverpool.
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Rena
> > =
> >
> > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:55:53 +0000
> > From: PJ Vazquez
> >
> > Hello List,
> > Five members of my Klug family arrived to NYC aboard the SS
Republic on 24
> > Apr 1874. The ship is listed as departing through Liverpool,
England and
> > Queenstown, Ireland. I haven't been able to find this ship on
the
> > Hamburg list. I'm wondering if it originally departed Hamburg?
Or
> > would they have taken a different ship on the Hamburg to London
portion of
> > the trip?
> > This is of interest because I know that my Klug ancestors were
born in
> > Visselhövede, but that they moved from there around 1858 to
another city
> > in
> > Hanover. The father Heinrich Klug (b. 1 Aug 1827) was a master
baker and
> > would have had his own bakery before he emigrated. They had 6 of
their
> > 10 children in the new town they moved to some where in Hanover.
Family
> > stories relate that they were in Hamburg but I'm not sure how to
check
> > this
> > out.
> > If I were to find their ship on the Hamburg list it might tell
me the town
> > of origin. Any ideas?
> > Thanks, Pam
> >
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> Cobh
>
> > Dear Rena and Listies
> >
> > Have been curious about that.
> >
> > Have always used online clues to locate library microfilm
records to
> > confirm my own family research, but I believe not all are
indexed.
> >
> > The situation which you describe? Europe to English or Irish
port...
> > Indirect List? Not all all indexed.
> >
> > More difficult to locate an ancestor on an indirect list.
> >
> > I have a question about Queenstown though. I have always thout
of
> > Queenstown as a place located in Austrailia.
> > That is no where near Ireland, or Brittish ports. Is there
another
> > locality called Queensland?
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Barbie-Lew>
> >
> > P.S. Please forgive my lack of knowledge. I wouldn't ever read a
list if I
> > knew all the answers.
> =
> > > Hello Pam,
> > >
> > > Your ancestor probably organised his journey through a travel
agent and
> > > I
> > > think you'll possibly find that the ship line owners of SS
Republic only
> > > operated out of Liverpool and Ireland. It was cheaper to sail
to an
> > > English port on the eastern coast such as Hull and travel
across the
> > > country
> > > by train to Liverpool. I believe records show that annually
this is what
> > > 2
> > > million mainland Europeans did. One of the ship lines
operating out of
> > > Hull
> > > to Holland and Germany was the Wilson Line and somewhere
online there is
> > > a
> > > poster which shows their ship arrival/departures and it also
lists train
> > > timetables from Hull to Liverpool.
> > >
> > > Best Wishes,
> > > Rena
> > > =
> > > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:55:53 +0000
> > > From: PJ Vazquez
> > >
> > > Hello List,
> > > Five members of my Klug family arrived to NYC aboard the SS
Republic on
> > > 24
> > > Apr 1874. The ship is listed as departing through Liverpool,
England and
> > > Queenstown, Ireland. I haven't been able to find this ship on
the
> > > Hamburg list. I'm wondering if it originally departed Hamburg?
Or
> > > would they have taken a different ship on the Hamburg to
London portion
> > > of the trip?
> > > This is of interest because I know that my Klug ancestors were
born in
> > > Visselhövede, but that they moved from there around 1858 to
another city
> > > in Hanover. The father Heinrich Klug (b. 1 Aug 1827) was a
master baker
> > > and would have had his own bakery before he emigrated. They
had 6 of
> > > their
> > > 10 children in the new town they moved to some where in
Hanover. Family
> > > stories relate that they were in Hamburg but I'm not sure how
to check
> > > this
> > > out.
> > > If I were to find their ship on the Hamburg list it might tell
me the