Joachim Borchert

I have copies of the church books for NeuBukow, Mecklenburg Schwerin back
to 1787. I started looking at 1821, and have moved forward. I have no way
of knowing if this is the correct person you are searching for, but I
figured I'd pass it on:

Joachim Heinrich Christoph BORKHOLDT
    b 17 Aug 1825
    bp 21 Aug 1825
    father Friedrich BORKHOLDT, of Panzow
    mother Dorothea geb GASTMEYER

There are no other names similar to that thru 1830. So you can eliminate
NeuBukow from your search list.

You might try finding the towns for some of his neighbors, since the early
immigrants tended to ''clump''....probably so they could understand each
other's dialect.

On one of the German genealogy websites, there is a database that can tell
you where certain names appeared in the early church records. You may have
to search for this, since I don't remember where I found it.

I've also found that the US church records, often recorded the birth place
on their death records.

Have you found his naturalization records? Sometimes if you can find out
which king he is not swearing any alliegence to, might help you narrow your
search.

In a message dated 3/26/2010 8:37:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jackbandy40@gmail.com writes:

Hi Melanie R
No, I do not know from where in Mecklenburg he came from. Yes, Mecklenburg
(prob. -Schwerin) is very big. And precisely therein lies my problem.
That's
why I made the request for everyone who happens to be working on the church
books of a place in Mecklenburg, to check in those records if my Joachim
Borchert is there. I was hoping that I might get lucky and be able to avoid
going through each Kirchspiel, one after the other, until I found him -
which would be, as you said, really time-consuming (& expensive). As to
whether he was born on that day or not, his wife (also from Mecklenburg,
but
came over separately, with her first husband) died around the same time.
In her death record, her date-of-birth and birthplace were mentioned and I
was able to confirm that both were correct. Also, her father's birth date &
birthplace were mentioned in his death record. And I was able to confirm
that that was correct also. So I have no reason to suspect that Joachim's
stated date-of-birth is false.
I had hoped to find his marriage record (must have been ca. 1855, based on
the ages of the children - both from her first marriage, as well as from
her
marriage to Joachim Borchert), but that has proved to be a dead end too.
The
church they belonged to in Brookfield was founded first later and they
don't
know of any earlier churches in the area. As far as a civil record goes, I
checked the website for the Waukesha County Register of Deeds. They have a
section for all the early records which can be viewed on-line, but it's not
there either.
As for the departure list, maybe you can let me know where I can look for
that. Most of the lists I've seen up till now seem to offer only very
general info about from where the immigrants came.
Yes, it does look like I'm looking for eine Nadel im Heuhaufen. But, maybe
that's just Schicksal. A challenge to be overcome. In any case, he's the
only one left of my emigrant/immigrant ancestors who was born in Europe and
died in America, where I have not been able to find out in which Ortschaft
he or she was born. Once he's found, then there'll be no more empty spaces
on the Ahnentafel.
Thanks for the advice. Sincerely, Jack Bandy

Jack,
Do you know where about he was from? Mecklenburg is still quite big and
there is (as far as I know) no such thing as ONE Geburtsregister. That
would
make our research so much easier though. Going through every single

church

book is really time consuming and I doubt that it is quaranteed that he

was

born that day. On top of that Borchardt is not really an uncommon name
which
makes it hard to say he could be from this or that part of Mecklenburg.

So what other information can you provide? When did he immigrate? If he

is

already in a 1860 census, he will not be listed in the Mecklenburg Census
from 1867. The last one before that was in 1819 and Joachim was not born
yet. It looks like you are looking for the famous needle in the hay stack
(German expression: die Nadel im Heuhaufen suchen). Did you check the
departure list? Maybe you will find his birth town/village in there.

Greetings from Germany,
Melanie

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mecklenburg-l-bounces@genealogy.net
[mailto:mecklenburg-l-bounces@genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von jack bandy
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. März 2010 21:51
An: Mecklenburg-L@genealogy.net
Betreff: [M-L] Joachim Borchert

Hi everyone.
I'm looking for my ancestor, Joachim Borchert (Borchardt). In his death
record (Brookfield, Wisconsin, USA) it is mentioned that his birth (poss.
baptism) date is 3. Dec. 1826. In the U.S. Census records of 1860 & 1870,
it
is noted that he was from Mecklenburg. In those records, he is referred

to

as "Joseph" (prob. because "Joachim" is an unusual name in America.
I was hoping that if any of you who are now working at the moment on
Mecklenburg church books with a Geburtsregister covering his birthdate

(3.

Hi Jazmyne, thanks for checking-out Neubukow for me. A variation of
"Borchert" would be "Borchardt" or even "Burckhardt" (S. Ger.), but prob.
not "Borkholdt". The Lautverschiebeng from R to L would be too big of a
leap. So the J.H.C.Borkholdt is prob. not my man.
I can try to contact the church in Brookfield again and check on where
others from Mecklenburg came from. I do know that people from Pomerania were
there also, so it was a bit mixed.
Early church records from SE Wisconsin seem to begin around the time he must
have married (1855), but mostly later. I did check out a site covering old
church records in Waukesha Co., but it didn't seem to be all-encompassing.
My Joachim Borchert's birthplace did definitely not appear in his death
record, neither the church, nor the civil record (I have a copy of both).
Naturalization records I have not checked-out. Where should I look?
Again thanks very much for your comments & advice. Jack

Hi Jack,
Do you have access to a Family History Center near you? I see you've checked an online database of Waukesha Cty Register of Deeds (I assume for his marriage record in 1855?). The Family History Library has the following microfilm:

Waukesha county registration of marriages, 1847-1907; index to marriages, 1846-1907 Film # 1275714 (the Index 1846-1907)

I don't know how comprehensive the online database you searched is, nor its search functionality - how reliable it is. But this film would seem to be a "for sure" - if they registered the marriage with the county, it would be here.

The FHL also has Naturalization films for Waukesha County, starting in 1847. I've had good and neutral results with naturalization searching, depending upon when they naturalized and how far they got in the process. But searches in those FHL microfilms would at least be a comprehensive search, I believe.

FHL catalog: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp
pick: Place Search / enter: Waukesha; Part of: Wisconsin / pick the first choice: Wisconsin, Waukesha
In the resulting list, you'll see Naturalization and Citizenship

What about passenger lists? Have you done any searching for him on those? All of my Wisconsin German ancestors came into NYC, but they arrived much later than your man. My early German New Yorkers (ca. 1840s) also came into NYC - and one of them had the town of origin on his list. *Germans To America* (1850-1897) is searchable online, now, through the NARA website:
http://aad.archives.gov/aad/series-description.jsp?s=4432&cat=GP44&bc=,sl&col=1002
Click the Search icon in the body of the page, next to Germans To America Passenger Data File

I checked in Ancestry, their passenger list databases, and didn't find your Joachim. That search included the port of New Orleans (1820-1945), along with Baltimore (1820-1948) New York (1820-1850) and New York (1820-1957) [don't ask, I don't have a clue why those are 2 databases]. There was a Joachim Burkhardt who arrived in 1847, but he was 47 years old. However - as with any Ancestry searching, you can't take a negative answer to mean that they're not in the original records. [I've searched numerous times for some people of mine, whom I know arrived in NYC and a range of years they arrived, I know their birth dates, etc., and Ancestry never finds them -- I'm beginning to suspect that they claim an abundance of NARA films have been entered in their system that haven't actually been entered.]

Again, the FHL has a number of indices for other ports -- there are some NARA films of (something like) miscellaneous Atlantic ports, an index to same.

All I can think of off the top of my head ~
Rebecca

jack bandy wrote:

Thanks Rebecca, I'll follow up on your suggestions. Jack