I have a question that hopefully one of the knowledgeable people on this list may be able to answer.
I have located my ancestor in the passenger lists. He arrived in NYC 10/7/1845 on the ship Emma with his wife, daughter, father and several siblings.
There is an extensive genealogy on the family of my ancestor's wife which states the he accompanied by his wife and child arrived in New Orleans in 1845 from the Kingdom of Hannover sailing from Hamburg to New Orleans, Louisiana then traveling north up the Mississipp River, then up the Illinois River to the settlement of Dunkles Grove which later became Addison, DuPage County, Illinois.
My question . . . would a family who arrived in NYC travel to New Orleans and then up river to Illinois? That does not seem too likely to me.
Hi,
A lot of immigrants came through New Orleans and then, found
transporation by boat up the river to various towns along the way. Hamburg
had direct and indirect routes. The direct would go to the USA directly.
The indirect ships would stop at other European countries and the
passengers would get another ship to travel on to the States. I seriously
doubt that any Hamburg ship would stop at NYC and then go on to New Orleans.
Your people may have taken another ship to go to New Orleans, but even that
seems unlikely. That's a long way to get to Illinois! They would probably
sail on other rivers from NYC to other areas.
I guess what I'm saying is that the family lore is wrong or that you
picked up another family with the same names that went to NYC.
This may be helpful. It's about the ships from Hamburg but begins in
1850:
Hi Don,
my anchestors travel from Bremen to New York in 1863. As an descandant of my anchestor told me, the family then went by railroad to Greengarden, Illinois (it is near Chicago). Perhaps that is the way your ancestor took??
Greetings from Germany, Andrea (Korbanka)
Once the Erie Canal opened in upstate NY, that opened the Midwest to easy travel from NYC via the Great Lakes. Travelers took the Hudson River north from New York City.
I agree with those who indicate that it was easier to get to south Ill in 1845 by New Orleans than by land.
It was the year of the Mexican American war, Florida became a state, John Tyler was the 10th president of the U.S. It was 35 years after the war of 1812. The Monroe Doctrine was really enforced starting 1845. The Little Big Horn was in 1876. The first stage line to Parkersburg on the Ohio river started in 1845. I think that if I had landed in New York in 1845, I would have gone the New Orleans route.
I have a passenger list of the "BARK ELLA". From Bremen to New York, arrival October 1, 1849
I listed mainly "Bound to New York", but by few people "Bound to St.Louis". Maybe this landed first in NY und later in New Orleans.
Werner
Originally, the Hamburg passengers were taken to non-German ports on German
ships.
The Dutch and the English were sailing trans-Atlantic early, but the Germans were not.
In 1851 when my Nordrhein-Westfalen Germans crossed, they sailed from Antwerp.
It was typical for the German ships to take Hamburg passengers to Liverpool.
Things were very different in the 1840s than later on!
I have a question that hopefully one of the knowledgeable people on this list may be able to answer.
I have located my ancestor in the passenger lists. He arrived in NYC 10/7/1845 on the ship Emma with his wife, daughter, father and several siblings.
There is an extensive genealogy on the family of my ancestor's wife which states the he accompanied by his wife and child arrived in New Orleans in 1845 from the Kingdom of Hannover sailing from Hamburg to New Orleans, Louisiana then traveling north up the Mississipp River, then up the Illinois River to the settlement of Dunkles Grove which later became Addison, DuPage County, Illinois.
My question . . . would a family who arrived in NYC travel to New Orleans and then up river to Illinois? That does not seem too likely to me.