On FamilySearch try to find it through PLACE search: Hannover
Then choose Census. You will get a list of Gerichtsakten by Amtsgericht. If
you know the general area of your town you should be able to narrow down
which film you need. Most of what I found was just statistical data, but I did
get lucky with finding good census data for my area for 1852 and 1855! (I only
wish I could find more.)
Good Searching!
Cindy Krieter
CA, USA
CLKrieter@aol.com
Cindy
Thanks for the tip. I don't know whta Gerichtsakten by Amtsgericht could
be, but I will take your word. I do know the various little villages where
they lived (Uelsen and Bimolten were the places of birth of the old grandpa
and grandma) but Lemke and other places were also mentioned by their
descendants. And I found the grandma's family baptized in big city of
Nord... Well you can tell my German isn't worth anything...
---Richard
I'm new at searching for census records in Hannover and having
difficulty in understanding the process. Could someone outline the steps
necessary if one only knows the town names (Schwanewede and Hammersbeck)
and then what is necessary to locate the surname (Bellmer)? Thanks!
John Stanton
jrstanton@comcast.net
Hi John,
This is not a census, but this is what the LDS catalog has (church
records):
Kirchenbuch, 1715-1852 Evangelische Kirche Schwanewede (Kr. Blumenthal)
They don't list Hammersbeck, but since it is close to Schwanewede, they
may have gone to church there as well.
If you are near an LDS center, it would well worth the effort to order
the microfilm from them to view it yourself.
Barbara Stewart
Thanks Barbara but I already have the church records from Schwanewede
and Blumenthal for Hammersbeck. Was hoping to find census records for
them.
John Stanton
jrstanton@comcast.net
John Stanton schrieb:
I'm new at searching for census records in Hannover and having
difficulty in understanding the process. Could someone outline the steps
necessary if one only knows the town names (Schwanewede and Hammersbeck)
and then what is necessary to locate the surname (Bellmer)? Thanks!John Stanton
jrstanton@comcast.net
Most of this census records are still in the archives, not published, not
accessable by internet. In some cases researchers have made some work on it. To
get knowledge about the existing of such records, you should write to the town
archive or ask the local administration to forward your writing to the right
archive. If their have been publishments on it, try to get into the catalogue of
the most nearby university and statearchive, should be in your case Bremen,
perhaps also Oldenburg and look under the places name or the places, which are
around and might be a regional centre. Nearest by Genealogical Society, in which
library something could be found in case of publishment about it is: "Die Maus,
Gesellschaft f�r Familienforschung e.V.Bremen, Am Staatsarchiv 1, 28303 Bremen,
http:// www.genealogy.net/vereine/maus.
Sorry, for not being able, to give you something more concrete Hans Peter Albers
Hi John,
Some one else recently posted this list of those census records in
Hannover which has been filmed by the LDS:
http://home.att.net/~arnielang/HannoverCensus.html
Also, check here:
Startseite
Barbara Stewart
John Stanton schrieb:
I'm new at searching for census records in Hannover and having
difficulty in understanding the process. Could someone outline the steps
necessary if one only knows the town names (Schwanewede and Hammersbeck)
and then what is necessary to locate the surname (Bellmer)? Thanks!John Stanton
jrstanton@comcast.net
I don't know the place Hammersbeck, but in Schwanewede you can this addresses at the phone directory: www.teleauskunft.de
Bellmer, Hans Phone(04209) -3203, Fax -4006
Damm 20
28790 Schwanewede
Bellmer, Manfred (04209) 3861
Insterburger Weg 10
28790 Schwanewede
Bellmer, Reinhold (04209) 4040
Schumannstr. 34 B
28790 Schwanewede
Bellmer, Tina (04209) 931193
Philosophenweg 26
28790 Schwanewede
Schwanewede is located north of Bremen.
Dear John,
Dear Readers,
Just back from a research trip to Hanover and Bodenwerder, I
realize that there have been a number of mails dealing with the
census records recently.
I want to add two comments/answers to your request, first a
special answer for Schwanewede and Hammersbeck, second a
general answer (an attempt to answer) to the question "how to find
the appropiate Census in a particular locality in Hanover".
1. Both Hammersbeck (31 houses/212 inhabitants in 1852) and
Schwanewede (138 houses/848 inhabitants in 1852) had belonged
to the Amt Blumenthal from 1852 on (before 1852 Schwanewede
was an administrative district of it`s own, a so called
"Patrimonialgericht").
The census records of the Amt Blumenthal are surely not in the
State Archive Bremen, but in the State Archive Stade. I do not
know yet if the orginal 1852 census lists of Hammersbeck and
Schwanewede are preserved, but if they are, they are - with a 99%
probability - in Stade. Theserecords were not filmed by the LDS.
2. In order to find the appropriate Census in a particular locality in
Hanover one has
a) to know about the administartive district (Amt) this town or
village belonged to at the time of the census and
b) to know about the way the records of the Ämter (plural of Amt)
are organized and preserved at the State Archives (and in which
State Archive).
It would be good if we would have an online database with all
villages, locations and towns within the Kingdom of Hannover (or
other regions) and the administrative they belonged to. We try to
build up such a database (Hannover Location List) on our census
website www.edition-hist.de, but this is only for 1852 and for the
areas we already have in our census database.
There are a number of old printed books which include lists of all
Hannover villages/towns and the Ämter they belonged to. The best
for the 1850s is "the Ringklib" (Statistische Übersicht der
Eintheilung des Königreichs Hannover nach Verwaltungs- und
Gerichsbezirken in Folge der neuen Organisation der Verwaltung
und Justiz, edited by Heinrich Ringklib). There were editions printed
in 1852, 1853 and 1859. These books have a location name index
and they are a key source for all Hannover researchers.
The State Archive in Nidersachsen have most of their Ämter
holdings organized based on the administrative structure after
1859. This means that you will find the census records of the Amt
rehburg in the holdings of the Amt Stolzenau, after the Amt
Rehburg only existed until 1859.
There are other archives in which census records are preserved
(town archives, district archives = Kreisarchive), but this is only the
fact for bigger towns and some "Kreise".
-> In almost all the cases the todays towns neither know if and
where a census of their town exist!
-> often the regional genealogical societies do not know either
I do not say this in order to blame the towns or societies, but only
in order to give you an idea about the very low attention the
German towns and even genealogists pay to the census records.
Often even the archives, who have census holdings do not know
about these holdings or at least not if these holdings include all the
inhabitant or only statistical material.
Even if it is correct that parish register research is by far the most
important genealogical source for German research, this very low
attention (sometimes ignorance) to the census records should be
find an end.
Best greetings from Bremen, Germany,
Jens
Jens Mueller-Koppe
HISTORICAL RESEARCH SERVICES, Germany (HRS)
Schanzendorfer Str. 9B
D - 28307 Bremen
Germany
www.hist.de
1852 Hanover Census Project
www.edition-hist.de
Thank you Jens your reply was right on target for me.
John Stanton
jrstanton@comcast.net
Dear Jens,
Can you estimate when the MARTSFELD sections #5, #6 and #7 of the 1852 Hannover Census, which you have currently available in the German version will be available in the English version?
And how should we go about paying for them? Do you take MasterCard and VISA and accept orders by telephone?
Thanks,
Newton
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Dear Newton,
Can you estimate when the MARTSFELD sections #5, #6 and #7 of the 1852
Hannover Census, which you have currently available in the German
version will be available in the English version?
Both the German and the English versions will probably in print
until December 2003.
Please send orders or questions about payments etc. to my private
address after I do not want to fill up the list with private buisiness.
You should have got a private e-mail from me just about one hour
ago.
Best greetings from Bremen, Germany,
Jens
Jens Mueller-Koppe
HISTORICAL RESEARCH SERVICES, Germany (HRS)
Schanzendorfer Str. 9B
D - 28307 Bremen
Germany
www.hist.de
1852 Hanover Census Project
www.edition-hist.de
Jens:
Thanks for the info. Would Osnabr�ck be the "administrative district" for
the town of Gesmold, which is about 10km SE?
Gary Stoltman
Mercerville, NJ
Dear Gary,
Thanks for the info. Would Osnabrück be the "administrative district"
for the town of Gesmold, which is about 10km SE?
Gesmold belonged to the Amt Grönenberg.
Best greetings,
Jens
Jens Mueller-Koppe
HISTORICAL RESEARCH SERVICES, Germany (HRS)
Schanzendorfer Str. 9B
D - 28307 Bremen
Germany
www.hist.de
1852 Hanover Census Project
www.edition-hist.de
Hallo Jens:
I am new to this list. I would be interested in the 1800-1860 censuses for
GESMOLD. Thanks
Gary Stoltman(n)
Mercerville, NJ