Hi Robin,
In a previous posting you requested the parish for the village of
Heinbockel.
In his posting from several hours ago, Dr. Wilhelm Thiele states:
the parish You are searching is "Himmelpforten", ten kilometer north of
Stade. Buxtehude lays about 30 km east of Stade. The church books starts
in
1692.
I do not think that this is correct, at least for the early 1800 time
period. Heinbockel was in the parish of Oldendorf. I checked the on-line
marriage records for Oldendorf posted by my distant cousin Heino Buckst�ver
from Fredenbeck and there appears to be only two Butts married in that
parish prior to 1852. On 3 June 1779 Peter Hinrich Butt from the village of
Oldendorf married Margret Holthusen from the village of Burweg (located in
the parish of Horst just to the north of the parish of Oldendorf) and on 18
April 1820 Jacob Meyer from the village of Oldendorf married Rebecca Butt
from the village of Klein-Fredenbeck (located in the parish of Mulsum just
to the south of the parish of Oldendorf).
There are many Tiedemanns found in the Oldendorf records include a
significant number from the village of Heinbockel. Tiedemann is a very
common name in the region. I myself descend from at least seven Tiedemann
lines from the parish of Lamstedt (located just west of the parish of
Oldendorf) on my father's side and one Tiedemann line from the village and
parish of Bevern (located about 11 miles south-southwest of the village of
Oldendorf) on my mother's side. Tiedemann was and perhaps still is the most
common name in the parish of Lamstedt.
The name Butt is also found in the parish of Lamstedt. I descend from two
different ways from Butt ancestors from the villages of Stinstedt and
Mittelstenahe in the western part of that parish.
That said, I checked for your Butt/Tiedemann ancestors in the parish of
Lamstedt in the Stammtafeln records from the Lamstedter B�rdemuseum (the
local history museum in Lamstedt) several months ago when you first posted
your query about your ancestors with those names and did not find them.
(The B�rdemuseum Stammtafeln records are descendancy charts for
approximately 1000 different family names who have lived in the parish of
Lamstedt from the early-to-mid 1600's through the early 1900's. There are
221 charts in all (many charts contain records for multiple families).
There six different Tiedemann charts that contain descendancy information
for close to 2000 people named Tiedemann who lived in the parish of Lamstedt
during that time and there is one Butt chart.)
The Tiedemann name is also found in all of the parishes that I have
researched near Lamstedt and Oldendorf, including Horst, Hechthausen,
Basbeck, Bederkesa, Ringstedt, Oerel, Oese, Kirchwistedt, Bremerv�rde,
Bevern, Selsingen, Heeslingen, Mulsum, Bargstedt and Harsefeld. The Butt
name is found in many of these parishes too (I think I remember seeing it in
Hechthausen, Bederkesa, Ringstedt, Oerel, Kirchwistedt and Bargstedt, but I
am not sure.)
I wish you luck with your research.
Fred Buck
Cincinnati, Ohio