Hannover

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Hello to All,

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Hello Elizabeth,
     
      Here is a page with two maps of Germany. I don't think Hesse was ever
part of Hannover. You can click on the maps to enlarge them:

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/regio.htm

    I truly hope you can find the birthplace of Henry Hess before you go on
your trip. Too many Henry Hesses...

Good luck,
Barbara

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Hi Barbara,
Thanks for the e-mail. I too hope I can find Henry Hess before I leave on Sept 24. It is probably that I will not find him.

I noticed on the map that Hannover and Hesse do border each other. I guess Henry could have come from a village on the border of Hannover, or that his ancestors migrated to Hannover from Hesse. Of course, this is all speculation.

Thanks again.
Betty in St. Louis, Missouri, USA

Hello Elizabeth,

Here is a page with two maps of Germany. I don't think Hesse was ever
part of Hannover. You can click on the maps to enlarge them:

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/regio.htm

I truly hope you can find the birthplace of Henry Hess before you go on
your trip. Too many Henry Hesses...

Good luck,
Barbara

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Hannover never included Hesse(n)

There were parts of Hesse(n) inside Hanover terrritory

Greetings

Falk Liebezeit
Diepholz

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I have records of a Johann Hinrich (Henry) Hesse who was born 21 Oct 1828 in
Verdenermoor, Hannover. He immigrated with his family to New Orleans in 1844
and then came to St. Louis area. The Hess or Hesse name was fairly common,
but could this be the one you are looking for?

Paul Scheele
pfsco1@comcast.net

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Thank you. It was just a thought to make my searching easier. HA!HA!
Betty in St. Louis, Missouri, USA

FalkLiebe@t-online.de wrote:
Hannover never included Hesse(n)

There were parts of Hesse(n) inside Hanover terrritory

Greetings

Falk Liebezeit
Diepholz

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Hello Paul,

Thanks for your e-mail.

My Henry Hess is quite a mystery.

1) According to his Naturalization record, dated Aug 1, 1848, he must have come to America in about 1842 or 1843. He had to be in America five years before becoming a citizen. It stated that he was from Hannover. (Finding a Henry Hess in Germany is like finding a needle in a haystack. It's a shame he did not have a middle initial.)

2) On the Passenger & Immigration Lists Index, it says "a Henry Hess, n.a.: Philadelphia, Pa. 1842 9297 . 103"

3) That would add up to the five year rule for becoming a citizen.

We, (another relative who searched for him in th 1980s) believe that is my Henry Hess.

4) The 1850 St. Louis, Missouri Directory showed only one Henry Hess--a riverman.
Relatives told us that he worked on a boat. His obit called him "Capt.".

5) The 1850 Census showed him age 24 and with his family--Elizabeth, his wife; Henry and Chas. his sons. This would make him born in 1826 or 27, depending on the date of his birth. I have the information from the baptismal records of his sons Charles Joseph and an Adam Joseph b. 30 Jul 1850. My ggrandfather Henry M. was not found although he is shown on the 1850 Census as being two years old, born in 1848. He may have been baptized in a different church.

6) He died 20 Apr 1851 in St. Louis from an accident on a boat.

7) We know that he married Elizabeth Kreher. I have not found a marriage license for him and neither have other people who have searched the Krehers.

8) I have another notation of a Henry Hess b. 30 Nov 1826, Harnheim on the Pfrem. Rheinbaiern. However, right now I am not sure where I got that.

The Henry you mentioned as having come to America in 1844 cannot be mine because
he became a citizen in 1848 and that would have been only four years of residence in the U.S. unless he came in that time frame in which immigrants could become citizens in four years. I cannot find the paper where I had the years for that written.

Of course, until a positive link is found, anything is possible. Anyway, there is still much to do on this line of my Mother's father.

Betty in St. Louis

I have records of a Johann Hinrich (Henry) Hesse who was born 21 Oct 1828 in
Verdenermoor, Hannover. He immigrated with his family to New Orleans in 1844
and then came to St. Louis area. The Hess or Hesse name was fairly common,
but could this be the one you are looking for?

Paul Scheele
pfsco1@comcast.net

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Hi Paul,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I made a trip to Switzerland and Germany looking for ancestor records. I found so much exciting information. I met with Scherle relatives on Tuesday and told them of my findings. I made genealogy charts, etc. for them and shared the wine I was given, made in the hometown of my gGrandfather August Schere. I am not getting caught up on things that I had to put aside.

My Henry Hess was 24 in 1850. That would have made him born in 1825 or 1826. Your Henry is a little too late for that.

I will certainly keep this information on hand. One never knows what errors may have been made and this could be the same Henry.

What else do you know about him. Whom did he marry? That would be a certain clincher there. Henry married Elizabeth Kreher, born in Munster by Dieburg, Hessen, Germany.

Thank you.

Betty in St. Louis, Missouri

I have records of a Johann Hinrich (Henry) Hesse who was born 21 Oct 1828 in
Verdenermoor, Hannover. He immigrated with his family to New Orleans in 1844
and then came to St. Louis area. The Hess or Hesse name was fairly common,
but could this be the one you are looking for?

Paul Scheele
pfsco1@comcast.net

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Hi Betty,

The Henry Hesse I have married a Louise STRICKER ON 24 Nov 1850 in Dittmer,
MO. Looks like it is a different Henry Hesse. Good luck on your research.

Paul

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Thank you. Betty

Paul Scheele <pfsco1@comcast.net> wrote:Hi Betty,

The Henry Hesse I have married a Louise STRICKER ON 24 Nov 1850 in Dittmer,
MO. Looks like it is a different Henry Hesse. Good luck on your research.

Paul

From: hannover-l-bounces@genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-
bounces@genealogy.net] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Carpenter
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:06 PM
To: Hannover-L
Subject: RE: [HN] Hannover

Hi Paul,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I made a trip to Switzerland
and Germany looking for ancestor records. I found so much exciting
information. I met with Scherle relatives on Tuesday and told them of my
findings. I made genealogy charts, etc. for them and shared the wine I
was given, made in the hometown of my gGrandfather August Schere. I am
not getting caught up on things that I had to put aside.

My Henry Hess was 24 in 1850. That would have made him born in 1825 or
1826. Your Henry is a little too late for that.

I will certainly keep this information on hand. One never knows what
errors may have been made and this could be the same Henry.

What else do you know about him. Whom did he marry? That would be a
certain clincher there. Henry married Elizabeth Kreher, born in Munster
by Dieburg, Hessen, Germany.

Thank you.

Betty in St. Louis, Missouri

Paul Scheele

wrote:

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Hi

I note herein a wedding in 1850 and mention of Dieburg.

A large group came to St. Louis from Dieburg in 1847. The needed New Orleans
arrivals list is lacking. Anyone have any knowledge of who was in the group?
My D�rr and Wunderlich ancestors were in the group.

Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks

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Hello Paul,
do you know where your Louise Stricker came from? Catholic?
In my genealogy class I have a Stricker of Bakum/Oldenburg.
Werner

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Hello Werner,

The Louise Stricker I have recorded came to USA, New Orleans, on Dec 20,
1844 on the Barque Paoli. The family is recorded as coming from Lohne which
I believe was in Oldenburg at that time and very close to Bakum.

Paul

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Thank you, Paul. My Henry Hess did not live very long in St. Louis. BC

Werner Honkomp <werner@honkomp.de> wrote:Hello Paul,
do you know where your Louise Stricker came from? Catholic?
In my genealogy class I have a Stricker of Bakum/Oldenburg.
Werner