What has happened to the town search I used to get by sending messages to geo@geneaolgy.net. t has not been working since Dec 2007.
bob gillis
Hi Bob,
I'm new here. What is ( was ) Town Search ? If it's locations of towns and villages I've had some luck using Mapquest. Click " outside US & Canada.
Hope this helps
Bob A.
Port Orange, FL
AIR, the response would give you the town name, name of larger place if absorbed, political subdivisions it was in, Lat and Long. Postal code. European map code, and topographical maps is is in.
the info is on the genealogy.net web site somewhere but i find the email response much easier with my very limited German.
bob gillis
Bob A. wrote:
Hi,
Hi Eric,
I don't know what GOV is. I'm new at this. So far Mapquest.com has worked for me.
Thanks,
Bob A.
Port Orange, FL USA
Hi,
Hello Bob,
sorry I did delete your first postings about your search as it was of no
relevance to me, I could not help, but now you are searching for German
places I can tell you that Itzehoe which you mentioned is in the German
'Bundesland' (county) of Schleswig-Holstein, the most northern of Federal
States in the Federal Republic bordering on to Denmark.
Blankenese and Nienstedten may at the time of the departure of your
ancestors ( I cannot remember the year) have been in Schleswig-Holstein too,
or even in Denmark because even the district Altona in Hamburg used to be
Danish. Nowadays it is Hamburg-Blankenese and Hamburg Nienstedten.
Hamburg-Blankenese a beautiful, and now a very expensive part of Hamburg
high up on the riverbanks of the ELBE, definitely the place where skippers and
captains used to live. Captains of sea going ships higher up the banks in the
larger houses, but also the smaller houses of the skippers of fishing vessels
lower down to the river are now highly sought after and very expensive.
Here is a website: Hamburg-Blankenese – Wikipedia
Unfortunately not in English, but perhaps you may be able to find something in
a search machine. At least there are some pictures in the above mentioned
website.
And here is Nienstedten: Hamburg-Nienstedten – Wikipedia
Sorry not much about names you mentioned, can't help you there, but to look
at the place where the forefathers came from might be interesting to you
already.
Cheerio
Ingrid
What has happened to the town search I used to get by sending messages
to geo@geneaolgy.net. t has not been working since Dec 2007.
Hi Bob .
Where are you looking? Germany in the past? Or in the new borders?
For parts who are now East-Europe look at: (you get the new name too)
www.kartenmeister.com
For now: www.map24.de or
http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHomePage.htm
Regards Lothar
Lothar Hlavensky
Hover Weg 6
51515 Kürten OT Dürscheid
Ansprechpartner GBS Initiative
Köln und Bergisches Land
www.gbs-initiative.de
Phone 02207 848045
Mobile 0160 94965068
Finde Freunde oder Gleichgesinnte:
http://einladung.stayfriends.de/8787511-1193216938.html
Hi Ingrid,
Thanks for contacting me. Your words paint a vivid picture in my imagination already. I'll visit the sites you referenced soon for a look around. I neither speak nor read any German at all but I'm sure the pictures will be very interesting and I thank you for them.
There may be some confusion in that I'm fairly confident that my ancestors came from around the Hamburg area and I am interested in finding out more of and more about them. I responded to someone else's inquiry that I had had good luck in looking at the MAPQUEST website to find my way around Germany. I'm new to this list and finding out how it works as I go. I have gotten several e mails regarding mapping, cities, towns and villages. As I get deeper into I'm sure they will be very helpful.
I have a question for you. A gentleman on this list contacted me offering research services for a fee. Is that the norm on this list ? I belong to lists here in the USA and they prohibit any commercial and / or services for fee promotions. I have no objection to this offer but at the same time I always use caution and especially so since I am new here. Your advise will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Bob A.
Port Orange, FL USA
Hello Bob,
sorry I did delete your first postings about your search as it was of no
relevance to me, I could not help, but now you are searching for German
places I can tell you that Itzehoe which you mentioned is in the German
'Bundesland' (county) of Schleswig-Holstein, the most northern of Federal
States in the Federal Republic bordering on to Denmark.
Blankenese and Nienstedten may at the time of the departure of your
ancestors ( I cannot remember the year) have been in Schleswig-Holstein too,
or even in Denmark because even the district Altona in Hamburg used to be
Danish. Nowadays it is Hamburg-Blankenese and Hamburg Nienstedten.
Hamburg-Blankenese a beautiful, and now a very expensive part of Hamburg
high up on the riverbanks of the ELBE, definitely the place where skippers and
captains used to live. Captains of sea going ships higher up the banks in the
larger houses, but also the smaller houses of the skippers of fishing vessels
lower down to the river are now highly sought after and very expensive.
Here is a website: Hamburg-Blankenese – Wikipedia
Unfortunately not in English, but perhaps you may be able to find something in
a search machine. At least there are some pictures in the above mentioned
website.
And here is Nienstedten: Hamburg-Nienstedten – Wikipedia
Sorry not much about names you mentioned, can't help you there, but to look
at the place where the forefathers came from might be interesting to you
already.
Cheerio
Ingrid
Hello Lothar,
Thanks for responding. There is some confusion in that the inquiry about the " town search " was not from me but rather I was responding to it. I've had good luck using MAPQUEST.
The people I'm looking for where all from around the Hamburg area as far as I know. As I get deeper into it I may find that other areas are involved. I'm new to this and just learning my way on this list but so far everyone has been very kind and helpful. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Bob A.
Port Orange, FL USA
What has happened to the town search I used to get by sending messages
to geo@geneaolgy.net. t has not been working since Dec 2007.
Hi Bob .
Where are you looking? Germany in the past? Or in the new borders?
For parts who are now East-Europe look at: (you get the new name too)
www.kartenmeister.com
For now: www.map24.de or
http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHomePage.htm
Regards Lothar
Lothar Hlavensky
Hover Weg 6
51515 Kürten OT Dürscheid
Ansprechpartner GBS Initiative
Köln und Bergisches Land
www.gbs-initiative.de
Phone 02207 848045
Mobile 0160 94965068
Finde Freunde oder Gleichgesinnte:
http://einladung.stayfriends.de/8787511-1193216938.html
Hello Bob and all in this forum!
Hi Ingrid,
Thanks for contacting me. Your words paint a vivid picture in my
imagination already. I'll visit the sites you referenced soon for a
look around. I neither speak nor read any German at all but I'm sure
the pictures will be very interesting and I thank you for them.There may be some confusion in that I'm fairly confident that my
ancestors came from around the Hamburg area and I am interested in
finding out more of and more about them.
That is why it is almost certain that they left for the United States from the
port of Hamburg, and while I cannot help you with any specific knowledge
about an Armbrust family I can name you another very interesting site on the
Internet.
In 2007 the City of Hamburg opened a brand new museum dedicated to the
people who emigrated to Amerika (and other places come to that). Incidentally
they rebuilt several Emigrants' Halls, buildings where the travellers were
housed before the departure of the ship they were booked on. Actually these
people, a lot of them from Eastern European countries like Russia, many of
them Jews, had been exploited by landlords of inns and cheap boarding
houses, also as there were such vast numbers of them the people of Hamburg
did not really welcome them for fear of diseases and epidemics being brought
into the city. This must have also been the main reason for the shipping
company HAMBURG AMERIKA LINIE to build a small town quite separated
from the City of Hamburg, well divided by the river Elbe, where the emigrants
were taken straight from the incoming trains. The town offered shops and
churches, cultural entertainment, like concerts. The passengers enjoyed
simple, but clean accommodation, cheap but nourishing food, and daily
medical checks.
In fact these daily medical checks were not enjoyed very much by the people
who lived there, the news travelled to others still waiting in Russia, Poland,
Lithuania or other Baltic States., they were warned that if one of them was not
quite well or had a handicapped child to avoid the Hamburg American Line's
accommodation and it's doctors.
Of course the shipping company made sure they would only carry fit people
because otherwise they would be sent back from Ellis Island anyway, and
Hamb.Amerika Linie had to return them to Europe free of charge if the
passengers had no money for the return journey.
It shows that behind the Emigrants' Halls again was a business idea which at
the same time took good care of the people to deliver them healthy and well to
their new country.
I have visited the museum and I was very impressed by what the Emigrants'
Halls were in their time, and also at the work the City of Hamburg of nowadays
to create such a place of remembrance. The museum is called Ballin Stadt
(Ballin Town) after the then director of the Hamburg Amerika Linie, Albert
Ballin.
And here is the wonderful website: Home - Auswanderermuseum BallinStadt Hamburg
This link leads you straight to the English website, I am sure you will enjoy
looking at it. It also gives you advice of how to go about 'My ancestors'
I have a question for you. A gentleman on this list contacted me
offering research services for a fee. Is that the norm on this list
? I belong to lists here in the USA and they prohibit any commercial
and / or services for fee promotions. I have no objection to this
offer but at the same time I always use caution and especially so
since I am new here. Your advise will be greatly appreciated.
Now, I am not too sure about this - you see I am usually a reader only here, I
have no connections to the USA apart from a friendship I have formed with a
lady in Missouri whom I have met here.
Did this gentleman write to you personally, to your own e-mail address and not
via the list? That would make me prick my ears up.
On this list we help each other free of charge. Many people here can help you
with your family questions, I usually do a bit like I do now, just general help,
sometimes a translation of a letter, an orbituary or such.
I have read postings here by people from America who had been successful in
finding out about the places their ancestors came from, for instance in what is
now Poland. These fellow country folks of yours they have recommended
experts who would for a fee help with paper-work in the foreign language or
be the guide on arrival if the Americans came over, as they had already made
use of these services, but as to an offer of help on this list for a fee I am sure
you are quite right to be very cautious.
Or does anybody of the list members here know better, and enlighten Bob
more clearly, please?!
Anyway got to go now, this mail became longer than I intended, but to tell you
about the Hamburg museum seemed to be important as I myself was so
impressed when I saw it.
Bye Bye, regards
Ingrid
Hi Ingrid and all others,
Another great e mail letter, thank you. You have a way with words. I took a look at all the websites you suggested and found them fascinating.
I'm quite sure my ARMBRUSTs were residents of the area rather than migrants to the area to emigrate. The story is my g'grandfather Peter Heinrich Armbrust was the first mate on a ship ( name unknown ) that sailed into Baltimore, MD USA and stayed here. I have his seaman's papers which are written in " old " German. I had a fellow translate them but he said the information was fairly generic with very few specifics. Peter's parents and their parents were all residents of the area as well. Besides Peter there were six other children which I have names, birth dates and Christening dates / places. If there is anyone on this list who may have connections I'd appreciate hearing from them and we can compare notes. I've been looking a long time and there seems to be little or no information of what became of most of my ARMBRUSTs.
Yes, the gentleman did write " off list " . It looks pretty legitimate but I didn't think that's the way these lists worked so I am hesitant. I did not respond.
Again, thank you for your help and interest and if there is anything I can help anyone with from here I'd be glad to do whatever I can.
Sincerely,
Bob A.
Port Orange, FL USA
Hello Bob and all in this forum!
Hi Ingrid,
Thanks for contacting me. Your words paint a vivid picture in my
imagination already. I'll visit the sites you referenced soon for a
look around. I neither speak nor read any German at all but I'm sure
the pictures will be very interesting and I thank you for them.There may be some confusion in that I'm fairly confident that my
ancestors came from around the Hamburg area and I am interested in
finding out more of and more about them.
That is why it is almost certain that they left for the United States from the
port of Hamburg, and while I cannot help you with any specific knowledge
about an Armbrust family I can name you another very interesting site on the
Internet.
In 2007 the City of Hamburg opened a brand new museum dedicated to the
people who emigrated to Amerika (and other places come to that). Incidentally
they rebuilt several Emigrants' Halls, buildings where the travellers were
housed before the departure of the ship they were booked on. Actually these
people, a lot of them from Eastern European countries like Russia, many of
them Jews, had been exploited by landlords of inns and cheap boarding
houses, also as there were such vast numbers of them the people of Hamburg
did not really welcome them for fear of diseases and epidemics being brought
into the city. This must have also been the main reason for the shipping
company HAMBURG AMERIKA LINIE to build a small town quite separated
from the City of Hamburg, well divided by the river Elbe, where the emigrants
were taken straight from the incoming trains. The town offered shops and
churches, cultural entertainment, like concerts. The passengers enjoyed
simple, but clean accommodation, cheap but nourishing food, and daily
medical checks.
In fact these daily medical checks were not enjoyed very much by the people
who lived there, the news travelled to others still waiting in Russia, Poland,
Lithuania or other Baltic States., they were warned that if one of them was not
quite well or had a handicapped child to avoid the Hamburg American Line's
accommodation and it's doctors.
Of course the shipping company made sure they would only carry fit people
because otherwise they would be sent back from Ellis Island anyway, and
Hamb.Amerika Linie had to return them to Europe free of charge if the
passengers had no money for the return journey.
It shows that behind the Emigrants' Halls again was a business idea which at
the same time took good care of the people to deliver them healthy and well to
their new country.
I have visited the museum and I was very impressed by what the Emigrants'
Halls were in their time, and also at the work the City of Hamburg of nowadays
to create such a place of remembrance. The museum is called Ballin Stadt
(Ballin Town) after the then director of the Hamburg Amerika Linie, Albert
Ballin.
And here is the wonderful website: Home - Auswanderermuseum BallinStadt Hamburg
This link leads you straight to the English website, I am sure you will enjoy
looking at it. It also gives you advice of how to go about 'My ancestors'
I have a question for you. A gentleman on this list contacted me
offering research services for a fee. Is that the norm on this list
? I belong to lists here in the USA and they prohibit any commercial
and / or services for fee promotions. I have no objection to this
offer but at the same time I always use caution and especially so
since I am new here. Your advise will be greatly appreciated.
Now, I am not too sure about this - you see I am usually a reader only here, I
have no connections to the USA apart from a friendship I have formed with a
lady in Missouri whom I have met here.
Did this gentleman write to you personally, to your own e-mail address and not
via the list? That would make me prick my ears up.
On this list we help each other free of charge. Many people here can help you
with your family questions, I usually do a bit like I do now, just general help,
sometimes a translation of a letter, an orbituary or such.
I have read postings here by people from America who had been successful in
finding out about the places their ancestors came from, for instance in what is
now Poland. These fellow country folks of yours they have recommended
experts who would for a fee help with paper-work in the foreign language or
be the guide on arrival if the Americans came over, as they had already made
use of these services, but as to an offer of help on this list for a fee I am sure
you are quite right to be very cautious.
Or does anybody of the list members here know better, and enlighten Bob
more clearly, please?!
Anyway got to go now, this mail became longer than I intended, but to tell you
about the Hamburg museum seemed to be important as I myself was so
impressed when I saw it.
Bye Bye, regards
Ingrid
Yes, Ingrid has helped the lady from Missouri as I am that lady and received a copy of the book in question. I cannot wait until I am able to visit my 'father' and grandparaents home country " of Germany and see the muesum although they left through Bremenhaven. It is m y desire to meet such an educated lady who is so warm and caring that she assists us who are still searching.
Anna
Yes Anna, I agree. Ingrid is very nice indeed. One can tell she is a pleasant person just by the way she writes. So much the better that people such as she participate on this list. Thanks again Ingrid.
Bob A.
Port Orange, FL USA
Yes, Ingrid has helped the lady from Missouri as I am that lady and received
a copy of the book in question. I cannot wait until I am able to visit my
'father' and grandparaents home country " of Germany and see the muesum
although they left through Bremenhaven. It is m y desire to meet such an
educated lady who is so warm and caring that she assists us who are still
searching.
Anna