[Genealogy.net-users-en] RE: Where did your ancestors come from?

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Hello All,

it looks like that I have created quite a bit of interest and an
"uproar" with this topic.

I received many letters telling me that you have problems
since everything is "ONLY" in Germany and that it's quite
complicated to read and evaluate the maps.

We are all aware of this and I'm in constant contact with
Mr. Christoph Stöpel the webmaster of this project:
http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen.aspx

We already started to translate the startup page into
English and improvements with the maps will follow.

In the meantime, I would suggest, make a printout of
the map showing the distribution of YOUR names in Germany
and then go to:
http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen_locator.aspx

here you will see a duplicate of the same map without
any entries. You can click anywhere on the map and it will
give you the exact location and more details..
sorry, again in German only...
but stay put.. we will get there sooner or later..

You all have a nice evening,

Wolf

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Hi Wolf,
Not having too much problem getting around the Geogen site, with hilarious
help from Babelfish, but don't quite understand the two terms 'absolute' and
'relative' in this context. I see the differences in distribution with the
names I am searching, but don't understand why the difference. Can you help?
Many thanks,
Shona (Sydney)

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Hi,

is it possible, that you do redundat work?

a) there is a special "page": "All pages" (http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Special:Allpages)
b) you can do a full-text search
c) GenWiki itself is intended to be an encyclopaedeia -> one word = one article; so you can add categories to every article which "sorts" them additionally.

Greeting

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Many thanks for that Uwe.

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Moin Shona,

Not having too much problem getting around the Geogen site, with hilarious
help from Babelfish, but don't quite understand the two terms 'absolute' and
'relative' in this context. I see the differences in distribution with the
names I am searching, but don't understand why the difference. Can you help?

Relative Darstellung für young
Wenn man die Bevölkerungsdichte verrechnet, findet man die meisten youngs in Landkreis Kaiserslautern, nämlich 136 Anschlüsse pro Million Einwohner. Fast verschwunden ist die Familie aus Landkreis Recklinghausen, hier treten pro Million Einwohner die wenigsten auf.

Relative display for young

If you calculate the density of population, you find most of the youngs in the Landkreis Kaiserslautern, even 136 lines per million inhabitants. Nearly disappeared is young from the Landkreis Recklinghausen. Here you have the fewest per million inhabitants.

The thing about absolute is maybe now more obvious.

Greetings
Eric

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Hi, Uwe,

thanks for participating. I know, you are pretty well
our "Mr.WIKI" and know more about that subject than anyone
else and we all have to try hard to catch up...

is it possible, that you do redundat work?

Well, maybe, but I did a lot of thinking on this one and
to the average user our WIKI is very confusing...

a) there is a special "page": "All pages"
(http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Special:Allpages)
b) you can do a full-text search
c) GenWiki itself is intended to be an encyclopaedeia -> one
word = one
article; so you can add categories to every article which
"sorts" them additionally.

There has to be a lot more to be done to make our WIKI more user- friendly.
WIKI-en is still very small, but if you click on the link above,
you get a "Million" names in 3 rows.. a hundert times County..bla..bla

OK, you can start further down the line, but still will get all the listings
up to z..

Another example: Occupations, Personal Pages, etc. are listed separately
with each individual letter, creating 52 lengthy entries and filling up
a half page, where only 2 entries would be sufficient.

BTW. how come that CAPITAL letters are sorted differently than normal
ones.. see STITZ and Stitz.. ??
Since with ancestry research, the surnames are usually capitalized, that's
another thing to watch for..

Maybe, our WIKI should be completely re- organized ??
Any suggestions ?

Have a nice day and 'talk' to you later,

Wolf

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Hello All,

now I need your help...

As you might know, I was born a long time ago in Germany and learned
the English language just by listening to the people.

Lately we had quite a few heated discussions with our German
counterparts about the commonly used and easily understood english words.

Just wondering..
Is the word "disambiguation" a widely used word and does
EVERYONE really know the meaning of it ??

PLEASE let me know, ON or OFF list....

Wherever you are, you all have a nice evening,

Wolf

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Hello Wolf,
I am sorry, but I would have to look it up. I am one of those who does not know the word though I can have a guess.......
Take care, Wolf. I shall be gone for the rest of the week.
Kind regards and have a Wonderful Easter,
Sabina.

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Disambiguation?? Have never seen the word, Wolf. I looked it up in an old dictionary here in the computer room, but I'll look in a better dictionary when I go back upstairs.

Barbara

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Wolf
hello
this might help:
Disambiguation in Wikipedia and Wikimedia is the process of resolving ambiguity-the conflict that occurs when a term is closely associated with two or more different topics. In many cases, this word or phrase is the "natural" title of more than one article. In other words, disambiguations are paths leading to different topics that share the same term or a similar term.

Sleep well,
Sabina.

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Hello Wolf,
I thought it was something like it, but I don't use it or rather I haven't used it. Now I will, haha. Learned something new and it's a big word.
Sabina.

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Hello Wolf;
I have never heard of this word. Looked it up and it apparently means clarification or illumanition.
Also, To establish a single grammatical or semantic interpretation for.
Dolly

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Lieber Wolf.

Das Wort disambiguation habe ich noch nie gehört.
Meine Tochter die hier auf die Universität gegangen ist kennt es auch nicht.
Wir Leben seit 1955 in Montreal, Canada,

Gruss Hans.

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Hi Sabina and everybody else,

I thought it was something like it, but I don't use it or rather I
haven't used it. Now I will, haha. Learned something new and it's a
big word.

Thats the thing ... "learn something new" .. we are here to learn a lot new stuff.

I made http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Template:Disambiguation in the style of Wikipedia but with the text of german GenWiki Template for this:
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/wiki/Vorlage:Begriffserklärung

Why should we call it different, if we use it for the same purpose like Wikipedia.

One page which uses the template disambiguation is
http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Bremen_(disambiguation%29

Regards
Eric

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Wolf Zscheile schrieb:

Hello All,

now I need your help...

As you might know, I was born a long time ago in Germany and learned
the English language just by listening to the people.

Lately we had quite a few heated discussions with our German
counterparts about the commonly used and easily understood english words.

Just wondering..
Is the word "disambiguation" a widely used word and does
EVERYONE really know the meaning of it ??

PLEASE let me know, ON or OFF list....

Wherever you are, you all have a nice evening,

Wolf

Hi to all,

this is what I found in one of my dictionnaries.

Hermann (from Germany)

disambiguation -- das Eindeutigmachen
disambiguation -- die Begriffskl�rung
disambiguation -- die Disambiguierung

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Hi everyone,
I never use the word 'disambiguation' and was not sure, but having typed it into 'google' it gives several explanations. I guess to answer to Wolf's question, the word is not widely USED, but we have all learned something now. At least I have, hehe. Thank you Wolf. And you are not the one lacking in knowledge, but I was.
Greetings to you and all
Sabina.

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The word is to long and hard to spell. Never heard it used or if I read it I skipped it.

Words such as "cool" and "awesome" befit the present culture.

Ed

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Moin Sabina,

zur Mail vom Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:02:40 -0400:

I guess to answer to Wolf's question, the word is not widely USED

I on the other hand guess, the answer lies in your previous mail:

Disambiguation in Wikipedia and Wikimedia is the process of resolving ambiguity

Be it a new word or an old word that has come to new importance, with an
encyclopedia like Wikipedia and its system of links this expression has
become something needed now.

Gru�
Gerd (Schmerse)

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Moin Gerd,
how good this 'moin' really is.......
and yes, I totally agree with you. Actually just recently I have noticed how great and extensive Wikipedia really is.
Thanks to Wolf we have now all learned something new....Disambiguity is something we should all work on.
Lb. Gruesse
Sabina.

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Hi All,

with my simple question I created quite an uproar and since
I have posted the same question to several of the english-
speaking lists, I must have received about a "zillion" answers.

It pretty well boils down to :
"Why make it simple if you can make it sounding more
impressive and intelligent"...

The english language has soo many words and most of them are
understood easily by almost everyone. But then you get some
"whiz- kids" coming along and they create another one..
which nobody understands and will ever use it, but they have to
show how smart they are...

I have received answers like: