Fütterer's of Oberfeld & Duderstadt

hannover-l
1

Hi,

I have been researching some German ancestors of mine
and am wondering if anyone on this list might be able
to assist me further.

What I know is as follows:

Johann (aka Johannes or John) F�tterer (aka Fitterer,
Fetter, Fudderer, Futterer, or Fetterer) was born in
the Hanover region of Germany (Oberfeld or Duderstadt)
in approximately 1825. His wife was Elizabeth (Lizzie)
Steitz who was born in Niederweisel, Germany around
1830.
As far as I can tell they were married before they
moved to the UK.

By the time of the UK 1861 census Johann and Elizabeth
were living in Whitechapel, London, Johann�s
profession at this time is a musician and his age is
shown as 30 years old � Elizabeth�s age is 23 years
old according to this census.
The 1871 census has Johann working as a skin dyer,
still living in Whitechapel. At this time he is shown
to be 32 years old (!!!) � Elizabeth is shown as age
30.
By the 1881 UK census John is shown to be 56 years old
and Elizabeth is 42 - so quite a discrepancy in age -
but everything else matches up ie wife and children's
names, so I am pretty sure that it is the same person.
Johann died at the end of the year in 1881, I have
found no further record of Elizabeth � possibly she
remarried.

They had at least eight children that I know of:
Elizabeth born c.1860
Philip born c.1862
Henry born c.1864
John Henry born 1867
Mary born 1870 - my Great Great Grandmother
William born 1877
Jane born 1881
Theresa born 1882

The information provided above has come from the 1861,
71 and 81 census�s and also the baptism registers of
St George's German Lutheran Church, Alie Street,
Aldgate, London

What I would like to find out is additional
information regarding the family before they moved to
England. It has been suggested to me that the
Kirchenbucharchiv of Hildesheim may hold additional
information that might be useful.

Does anyone know of any researchers willing to carry
out work in this area? Or of a website for the
Kirchenbucharchiv?

Regards,

Daniel Winfield

2

Dear Daniel,

you are right to find additional information in Hildesheim, if your ancestors were catholic: http://www.bho.kirchenserver.org/bho/dcms/sites/hildesheim/kultur/index.html

If they were evangelic, Duderstadt is part of the Landeskirche Hannover: http://www.evlka.de/archiv/genealogenglisch.html

More information by clicking the given links (one in German, one in English)

Good luck and kindly regards from Germany,

Bj�rn

3

Hello,
     Are you near a LDS center where you can order and view records? There
are many records for Duderstadt including census, church records, dwellings,
history, etc. There are also records for Nieder-Weisel which is in Hessen,
including Evangelical Lutheran church, civil registration, and Jewish
records.

If you go to www.familysearch.org and click on Search for Ancestors and then
Family History Library Catalog and go to Place and write in the city/town
you want, you can see what is available.

I'm not sure of the location of the Oberfeld you mentioned. There is a town
north of Duderstadt named Obernfeld. There are Catholic church records for
that town:
    Kirchenbuch, 1627-1925 Katholische Kirche Obernfeld (Kr. Duderstadt)

but the films cannot be sent to any LDS center in Europe. Do you live in
England? You said your ancestor was Lutheran. I can only see one church in
Obernfeld on the map.

    Duderstadt and Nieder-Weisel are not that near to one another. Maybe I
have the wrong towns listed here. Or maybe John and Elizabeth met on the
boat to England.

Good luck,
Barbara

4

Bj�rn,

Thanks for this.

Regards,

Daniel Winfield

--- Bj�rn Sassenberg <post@bjoern-sassenberg.de>
wrote:

Dear Daniel,

you are right to find additional information in
Hildesheim, if your ancestors were catholic:

http://www.bho.kirchenserver.org/bho/dcms/sites/hildesheim/kultur/index.html

If they were evangelic, Duderstadt is part of the
Landeskirche Hannover:
http://www.evlka.de/archiv/genealogenglisch.html

More information by clicking the given links (one in
German, one in English)

Good luck and kindly regards from Germany,

Bj�rn

From: "Daniel Winfield" <daniel_winfield@yahoo.com>
To: <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: [HN] F�tterer's of Oberfeld & Duderstadt

> Hi,
>
> I have been researching some German ancestors of
mine
> and am wondering if anyone on this list might be
able
> to assist me further.
>
> What I know is as follows:
>
> Johann (aka Johannes or John) F�tterer (aka
Fitterer,
> Fetter, Fudderer, Futterer, or Fetterer) was born
in
> the Hanover region of Germany (Oberfeld or
Duderstadt)
> in approximately 1825. His wife was Elizabeth
(Lizzie)
> Steitz who was born in Niederweisel, Germany
around
> 1830.
> As far as I can tell they were married before they
> moved to the UK.
>
> By the time of the UK 1861 census Johann and
Elizabeth
> were living in Whitechapel, London, Johann's
> profession at this time is a musician and his age
is
> shown as 30 years old - Elizabeth's age is 23
years
> old according to this census.
> The 1871 census has Johann working as a skin dyer,
> still living in Whitechapel. At this time he is
shown
> to be 32 years old (!!!) - Elizabeth is shown as
age
> 30.
> By the 1881 UK census John is shown to be 56 years
old
> and Elizabeth is 42 - so quite a discrepancy in
age -
> but everything else matches up ie wife and
children's
> names, so I am pretty sure that it is the same
person.
> Johann died at the end of the year in 1881, I have
> found no further record of Elizabeth - possibly
she
> remarried.
>
> They had at least eight children that I know of:
> Elizabeth born c.1860
> Philip born c.1862
> Henry born c.1864
> John Henry born 1867
> Mary born 1870 - my Great Great Grandmother
> William born 1877
> Jane born 1881
> Theresa born 1882
>
> The information provided above has come from the
1861,
> 71 and 81 census's and also the baptism registers
of
> St George's German Lutheran Church, Alie Street,
> Aldgate, London
>
> What I would like to find out is additional
> information regarding the family before they moved
to
> England. It has been suggested to me that the
> Kirchenbucharchiv of Hildesheim may hold
additional
> information that might be useful.
>
> Does anyone know of any researchers willing to
carry
> out work in this area? Or of a website for the
> Kirchenbucharchiv?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel Winfield
> ______________________________________________
> 15.10.2005 - 10 Uhr-17 Uhr
> Deutsches Auswandererhaus, Bremerhaven
> 5. Norddeutsche Computergenealogieb�rse
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Hi,

I have found the following record at the
familysearch.org website:

International Genealogical Index - Germany
1. JOHANN HEINRICH FRIEDRICH FUETTERER - International
Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: 30 MAY 1832 Nordfeld, Hannover,
Preussen

I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether Nordfeld
is anywhere near Duderstadt or Obernfeld? I have tried
searching for it on the internet but have been unable
to find it - possibly it is a place that no longer
exists!?!?

Any help on this would be appreciated.

Regards,

Daniel

Hello,
     Are you near a LDS center where you can order
and view records? There
are many records for Duderstadt including census,
church records, dwellings,
history, etc. There are also records for
Nieder-Weisel which is in Hessen,
including Evangelical Lutheran church, civil
registration, and Jewish
records.

If you go to www.familysearch.org and click on
Search for Ancestors and then
Family History Library Catalog and go to Place and
write in the city/town
you want, you can see what is available.

I'm not sure of the location of the Oberfeld you
mentioned. There is a town
north of Duderstadt named Obernfeld. There are
Catholic church records for
that town:
    Kirchenbuch, 1627-1925 Katholische Kirche
Obernfeld (Kr. Duderstadt)

but the films cannot be sent to any LDS center in
Europe. Do you live in
England? You said your ancestor was Lutheran. I can
only see one church in
Obernfeld on the map.

    Duderstadt and Nieder-Weisel are not that near
to one another. Maybe I
have the wrong towns listed here. Or maybe John and
Elizabeth met on the
boat to England.

Good luck,
Barbara

> Hi,
>
> I have been researching some German ancestors of
mine
> and am wondering if anyone on this list might be
able
> to assist me further.
>
> What I know is as follows:
>
> Johann (aka Johannes or John) F�tterer (aka
Fitterer,
> Fetter, Fudderer, Futterer, or Fetterer) was born
in
> the Hanover region of Germany (Oberfeld or
Duderstadt)
> in approximately 1825. His wife was Elizabeth
(Lizzie)
> Steitz who was born in Niederweisel, Germany
around
> 1830.
> As far as I can tell they were married before they
> moved to the UK.
>
> By the time of the UK 1861 census Johann and
Elizabeth
> were living in Whitechapel, London, Johann�s
> profession at this time is a musician and his age
is
> shown as 30 years old � Elizabeth�s age is 23
years
> old according to this census.
> The 1871 census has Johann working as a skin dyer,
> still living in Whitechapel. At this time he is
shown
> to be 32 years old (!!!) � Elizabeth is shown as
age
> 30.
> By the 1881 UK census John is shown to be 56 years
old
> and Elizabeth is 42 - so quite a discrepancy in
age -
> but everything else matches up ie wife and
children's
> names, so I am pretty sure that it is the same
person.
> Johann died at the end of the year in 1881, I have
> found no further record of Elizabeth � possibly
she
> remarried.
>
> They had at least eight children that I know of:
> Elizabeth born c.1860
> Philip born c.1862
> Henry born c.1864
> John Henry born 1867
> Mary born 1870 - my Great Great Grandmother
> William born 1877
> Jane born 1881
> Theresa born 1882
>
> The information provided above has come from the
1861,
> 71 and 81 census�s and also the baptism registers
of
> St George's German Lutheran Church, Alie Street,
> Aldgate, London
>
> What I would like to find out is additional
> information regarding the family before they moved
to
> England. It has been suggested to me that the
> Kirchenbucharchiv of Hildesheim may hold
additional
> information that might be useful.
>
> Does anyone know of any researchers willing to
carry
> out work in this area? Or of a website for the
> Kirchenbucharchiv?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel Winfield
> ______________________________________________
> 15.10.2005 - 10 Uhr-17 Uhr
> Deutsches Auswandererhaus, Bremerhaven
> 5. Norddeutsche Computergenealogieb�rse
> Infos:

http://maus.genealogy.net/computertag//bhv_boerse_okt_2005.html

> ______________________________________________
>
> Hannover-L mailing list
> Hannover-L@genealogy.net
>

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Hi Daniel:

North Field, isn't that in Minn. where the "Great
Northfield Robery" took place?

Anyway, all I could find was a Mining district called
Nordfeld somewhere around the Black forest. However,
since your information specifically states Hannover, I
think that you should stick to the KOH.

OK, I think I have it. It was an old suburb of Hanover
and was incorperated into Hanover in 1859. The following
is a exerpt from: (Check last Sentence)

http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/wigeo/intersem/histor/19thcent.htm

During this time the economical growth became more and
more important and lead to general prosperity of the
inhabitants. At first it was only the fact to be well
located regarding international trade routes, but
especially being part of the early railway network that
had been built since 1842 had positive effects for the
economic structure of Hanover and its neighbour-city
Linden, which is situated in the South-West. Establishing
of smaller factories and large industries took place for
the first time. As it is easy to comprehend, many people
tried to participate in the economical success of Hanover.
That was the reason for a great growth of inhabitants; in
1861 the population was about 71000.
As a consequence it was neccessary to build new housings
now. It was Georg Friedrich Laves again, who was the man
to realize these plans. He was instructed by his king to
plan the Ernst-August-City in order to overcome the crush
of the old-town. The Ernst-August-City, which was in the
North-East of the old-town, then was incorporated into
Hanover in 1847.

Only a few years later, in 1859, the king
made a decree to incorporate the suburbs Bult, Kleefeld,
K�nigsworth, Nordfeld, Ostwende and Schlo�wende.

Gale

Thread deleated for brevity.

7

Gale,

Thanks for this.

Hi Daniel:

North Field, isn't that in Minn. where the "Great
Northfield Robery" took place?

Anyway, all I could find was a Mining district
called
Nordfeld somewhere around the Black forest.
However,
since your information specifically states Hannover,
I
think that you should stick to the KOH.

OK, I think I have it. It was an old suburb of
Hanover
and was incorperated into Hanover in 1859. The
following
is a exerpt from: (Check last Sentence)

http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/wigeo/intersem/histor/19thcent.htm

During this time the economical growth became more
and
more important and lead to general prosperity of the
inhabitants. At first it was only the fact to be
well
located regarding international trade routes, but
especially being part of the early railway network
that
had been built since 1842 had positive effects for
the
economic structure of Hanover and its neighbour-city
Linden, which is situated in the South-West.
Establishing
of smaller factories and large industries took place
for
the first time. As it is easy to comprehend, many
people
tried to participate in the economical success of
Hanover.
That was the reason for a great growth of
inhabitants; in
1861 the population was about 71000.
As a consequence it was neccessary to build new
housings
now. It was Georg Friedrich Laves again, who was the
man
to realize these plans. He was instructed by his
king to
plan the Ernst-August-City in order to overcome the
crush
of the old-town. The Ernst-August-City, which was in
the
North-East of the old-town, then was incorporated
into
Hanover in 1847.

Only a few years later, in 1859, the king
made a decree to incorporate the suburbs Bult,
Kleefeld,
K�nigsworth, Nordfeld, Ostwende and Schlo�wende.

Gale

Thread deleated for brevity.
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Hello Daniel,
     
       In my detailed road atlas, there is a very small Nordfeld in Hannover
very near the border of the Netherlands. Another one is in
Schleswig-Holstein. Sometimes very small towns are not on the map. I
thought perhaps a Nordfeld could now be a part of the city of Duderstadt or
another town in that area. The best way to check that is by using
mapquest.com and zooming in as far as possible and moving through the area.
I have found tiny towns that way that may only be an intersection in a
larger city. You might try that. I did try some of that, but not entirely.

    Another thought, there are now 271 listings in Germany for Futterers
living in various parts of Germany today. That probably means they did not
exclusively live in the Duderstadt area. If you notice on the listing on
the LDS site for the JOHANN HEINRICH FRIEDRICH FUETTERER, it was entered by
a person from the LDS church. Sometimes if you look at the film, it will
give you the name of the person who entered the listing and you could
contact him/her.

    Of course, some of those LDS entries can be wrong. And there have been
a Nordfeld that we can't find today.

Barbara

9

Hello again,

       When you search the German telephone book, you should search for
Futterer with and without the umlaut. Here are some names for the Duderstadt
area:
   
1-4 of 4
         Fütterer Adolf (0 55 27) 54 82
37115 Duderstadt, Lessingstr. 12
         Fütterer Karl-Heinz (0 55 29) 18 74
37115 Duderstadt, Pfingstanger 36
         Fütterer Manuela (0 55 27) 7 34 83
37115 Duderstadt, Bachstr. 25
         Fütterer Stefan (0 55 27) 94 19 35
37115 Duderstadt, Uhlandstr. 5

You might try contacting them.

Barbara