There is a far-fetched possibility that the Angela Meyer might be in my
family tree. I have been able only to trace my ancestry to Johann Heinrich
Meyer (1821-1877) who lived in Hannover, possibly in the village of
Oldendorf near Uelzen. Do you have any other information on this name?
Tahnks. Edward H Meyer
Dear Barb and Edward,
Here goes a list of all the names of Rueve, Meyer and Sandt that are part of
our Family Tree. Do you recognize any of them. Hope so. Unfortunately I
don�t know much about most of them. I�ve included what I know.
Name Birth date Birth location Death date Death location Spouse
Meyer, Alphons Garrel Tieman, Auguste Maria Gerrtrud
Meyer, Annegret Dinkgrefe, Heinrich Josef Johann
Meyer, Bernd Henrich Quatmann, Maria Catharina Bernardina
Meyer, Bernhard Heinrich Rump, Josefa
Meyer, Caspar Henrich Kruempelmann, Maria Elizabeth
Meyer, Dirk Henrich 9 fevereiro 1831
Meyer, Elisabeth Wilhelmine 24 setembro 1855 6 novembro 1877 Dinkgrefe,
Johan Henrich Hermrolfes
Meyer, Joes Henrich Br�ggehagen, Anna Adelheid
Meyer, Joh. Dirk Hodebecke, Maria Aleth
Meyer, Johan Henrich Meyer, Maria Elisabeth
Meyer, Maria Catharina 15 mar�o 1878 Quatmann, Joan Henrich
Meyer, Maria Catharine 16 abril 1803 Waschefort, Caspar Henrich
Meyer, Maria Elisabeth 13 outubro 1836 Barlage, Johan Henrich
Meyer, Theodore Henrich 11 outubro 1787 12 junho 1870 R�bke-Stadtsholte,
Catharina Elisabeth
Meyer, Wessel Uptloh gt.Thole, Anna Maria Angela
Meyer-Bokel, Berrnard Dinkgrefe, Frieda Elisabeth Rosalia
Rueve, Anton August 1831
Rueve, Bernard Heinrich 1815 5 abril 1872 Sander, KAth Elizabeth
Rueve, Caspar Anton 1767 D�nhoeft, Anna Maria Angela Elis.
Rueve, Joh Bernard 1859
Rueve, Joh Josef 1826
Rueve, Johan Anton 1797 9 abril 1869 Langfer, Anna Bernardina
Rueve, Maria Bernardina 1846 11 fevereiro 1913 Kuper, Joh Bernard
Rueve, Maria Elisabeth Bernardina 1800 24 novembro 1882 Kl�nemann, Joh
Rudolf
Rueve, Maria Elizabeth 1867 L�ckmann, Joh Heinrich
Rueve, Maria Gertrud 11 dezembro 1804 Moennig, Heinrich Josef
Rueve, Maria Joanna 1870 Willenborg, Joh Gottfried
Rueve, Maria Josephine 1863 Meermann, Heinrich
Ruewe, Anna Angela 1751 2 fevereiro 1760
Ruewe, Anna Catharina Niehaus, Johann Gerhard
Ruewe, Anna Katharina 17 outubro 1759 21 dezembro 1759
Ruewe, Anna Katherina Nieske, Burchard
Ruewe, Anna Katherina 1740
Ruewe, Anna Marg 1754 Beckmann, Gerhard
Ruewe, Anna Maria 1737 1 maio 1807 Klostermann, Joh Rudolf
Ruewe, Anna Maria 1753 3 janeiro 1754
Ruewe, Anna Maria 31 dezembro 1753
Ruewe, Anna Maria 1784 Voet, Theodor
Ruewe, Anna Maria Bernardina 1825
Ruewe, Anna Maria Elizabeth 1818 18 novembro 1880 Bakum, Lohe, Oldenburg,
Germany Willenborg, Bernard Heinrich
Ruewe, Anna Maria Gertrud 1829 9 fevereiro 1830
Ruewe, Anna Maria Sophia 1831 Nieske, Joannes
Ruewe, Franz Anton 1790
Ruewe, Gertrud 1716
Ruewe, Herm Bernard 6 maio 1756 26 dezembro 1760
Ruewe, Herman 1742 13 fevereiro 1741/42
Ruewe, Herman Heinrich 4 agosto 1735 10 abril 1781
Ruewe, Hermannus 26 fevereiro 1709/10 Meyer, Angela
Ruewe, Joh Bernard 18 agosto 1739 2 maio 1797 Sch�rmann, Anna Katherina
Ruewe, Joh Bernard 1786 16 janeiro 1837 Heuerman, Maria Elizabeth
Ruewe, Joh Bernard Josef 1822
Ruewe, Joh Caspar 12 junho 1746 6 junho 1778
Ruewe, Joh Heinrich 1736
Ruewe, Joh Heinrich 1749 27 abril 1779
Ruewe, Joh Heinrich 1757 2 dezembro 1790
Ruewe, Joh Heinrich Josef 1820
Ruewe, Joh Hermann 1761
Ruewe, Joh Otto 1763 14 mar�o 1764
Ruewe, Joh. Heinrich 1719 Niemann, Margaretha
Ruewe, Katharina Elizabeth 20 fevereiro 1743/44 Vestrup 26 dezembro 1827
Altersschwache Hawickhorst, Georg Heinrich
Ruewe, Maria Angela 1779 Ostendorf, Johan Gerhard
Ruewe, Maria Elizabeth 1777
Ruewe, Maria Elizabeth 1785
Ruewe, Maria Gertrud 12 fevereiro 1828
Ruewe, Theodore Margaretha
R�ve, Hermann 1673 3 dezembro 1723 Meerman, Anna
Ruwe, Anna Katharina 1713
Sandt, Maria Elis 1776 1 fevereiro 1859 Vestrup Hawickhorst, Joh. Hermann
Family Names that are included in our Family Tree.
Barlage Bekebrock Beverburg Beymoor Boeckers Bokern Braegel Branlage Brogel
Buckeole Calvelage Cruempelmann Dieckman Dinkgreve Dinkgrevesche Dultmeyer
Eggerman Evers Fleck Friehling Gerdhabing
Gerding Habing Hackstedt Hagestette Hawickhorst Hellebusch Hermrolfes
Hoedebecke Hoenkamp Hoenkamp Hoinkomp H�lterman Holthaus Honkomp
Hopmann Hoppe Ivercamp Jansen Johans Kaetmann Klocker Korfage Krimpelfort
Krogman Kruempelmann Laufer L�bbecken Meerman Meyer Minckenberg Mohre Moore
Morman Niehaus Nieman Nienkerken Nordlohne
Nortloh Nortlohn Orde Ovelg�nne Pohlmann Purhorn P�ttman Quade Quatmann
Rebel Reitman Roleffs Ruewe R�ve Sander Sandman Sandt
Schulte Sieverding Stukerborg St�ve Taphorn Thamann Thole Tieman
Tombroegel Trineke Uptmor Viek von der Helde Vortman Waschefort
Wenstrup Wichelman Willenbring Windhaus Zerhusen
Frei Mauro
(my paternal ancestry)
John Henry "Daniel" WALTER, b. before 1790:
resided Hohehahn, Diederichfield, Ostfriesland (Prussia)
married to: Catherine (Unknown - possibly VOSLOH/VOSLOH. He was a Lutheran Minister in Germany.
FIVE sons with their wives and families emigrated to United States
between 1851-1854. At least one grandson was also
married, and emigrated.
1. Daniel WALTER (marr: RODEWALD),
2. William John WALTER (marr: MANSEN), and
3. Johann (John) "Christian" WALTER (marr: VINYARD);
all emigrated in 1852 with their children.
4. John Nickolas Daniel WALTER
(marr: MILLER or MUELLER), emigrated July/Aug 1851.
5. John Henry WALTER (marr: RENKEN) from
Osnabruck, emigrated 1854 and reunited with his brothers in the U.S.
Other than finding correct origin of the above family, I do have
concerns about the surname: WALTER. I have been told that it
is impossible for the family WALTER to be Ostfriesian, although in
my possession, I have a baptismal certificate for Henrietta WALTER,
baptized at Lutheran Church in Aurich. It has been suggested that the surname would be spelled
WATTJE, or WATTJES. Henrietta was born on September
27, 1843 in Diederichfeld, Germany, the daughter of Daniel
Henry WALTER and Johanna Amalia RODEWALD
(Hannover). Henrietta was baptised October 8, 1843,
she married John P. FOREMAN (Prussia) in southern Illinois.
Henrietta's last name on the certificate is spelled W-A-L-T-E-R.
(with no "s" as in Walters).
At least John "Henry" Daniel WALTER, (born: 1812 Osnabruck
/ Kings Select Army for 6 years) with wife, Almuth Harms RENKEN,
( born April 1813, Ostersander) and children, departed from the
Port of Bremerhaven, to the Port of New Orleans. There is no
proof on the journeys of the other brothers. But, since he was last
to emigrate, I am fairly certain that the brothers who emigrated
before him, took the same route.
All of the above family settled in southern Illinois, Pope County,
and founded a small community named Waltersburg, Illinois, where
the language spoken was German or Plattdeutsch. They established
a German Lutheran Church, and school, market and other businesses,
where many other immigrants from Germany settled. Since about
1920, this little community has become nearly a ghost-town, and
most all descendants are lost and scattered across the United States.
The Church, now Methodist, is still in good repair, as well as the cemetery.
(my maternal ancestry - no Hannover implied)
Surname: SITZLER, SITCHLER, SISTLER, SISLER, SIZLER:
Zacharias (SITZLER) SISTLER, emigrated 1735 to Philadelphia
from Germany. John Lenard SIZLER, emigrated with younger brother John Peter,
in 1741 from Rotterdam, Palatine region.
I have tried researching the Ship Lists, to no avail. I've been told that the manifests were destroyed from Bremen and
Bremerhaven for this era. Whatever help can be given, is much
appreciated. Please, forgive me if I have over extended this posting.
CarolSue Walter-Robinson
Hello,
I would guess that you have done this, but if you haven't, I would
suggest that you do a search on the LDS website (www.familysearch.org) and
enter only the surname of Walter and check the box for exact spelling. Then
you should be convinced that Walter (spelled your way) is indeed a
legitimate German name! There should be no question--
And are you aware that the LDS does have records for Aurich on
microfilm? My road atlas of Germany shows that both Hohehahn and
Dietrichsfeld are not far from Aurich. It is possible that their records
would all be on the Aurich film.
I have been looking in New Orleans passenger lists on film, too, and
cannot find the names I'm looking for. For example, July-Dec 1852 are
missing. And in August 1853, the lists are all missing except for three.
Also try the website (www.istg.rootsweb.com) -- there are many lists there.
But if the lists are lost, we will never find them! I would also check the
Baltimore lists--there are many from northwest Germany that came that way.
I didn't find my people there, but you never know, you might be lucky.
Barbara
Just a note that many Germans also came through Port Huron by way of Canada
( My GGrandfather did) because it was less costly.
Hi Carol,
I have been doing some digging in old handbooks on my shelves and can't remember where I saw the references to regional biographical works on pastors. Here are some general titles, probably only available in large German libraries:
Behrend, Oscar. Verzeichnis der Evangelischen Geistlichlichkeit des Deutschen Reiches nach amtlichen Quellen (Berlin, 1877)
Hottinger, Christlieb Gotthold. Die Evangelischen Geistlichen des Deutschen Reiches (Berlin-Strassburg, 1880)
Also found this at: http://walter.meischner.bei.t-online.de/pfalzdor/geschich/geschich.htm
"Im Mai 1741 verlie�en die Vorfahren der Pfalzdorfer mit drei Schiffen ihre Hunr�cker Heimat, um den kriegerischen Verw�stungen und der religi�sen Unterdr�ckung zu entgehen. Ihr Ziel war Amerika. Dort hofften sie, in Ruhe leben zu k�nnen und in Freiheit ihre Religion aus�ben zu d�rfen. Ihre Pl�ne wurden aber schon in Schenkenschanz durch die Holl�nder zerst�rt. Man verweigerte ihnen die Durchreise nach Rotterdam, von wo aus die Pf�lzer nach Amerika segeln wollten. Nach l�ngeren Verhandlungen mit der Klever Kammer und dem Magistrat der Stadt Goch �berlie� man den Pf�lzern im Herbst 1741 die etwa 10.000 Morgen gro�e Gocher Heide zur Urbarmachung und Besiedlung. Nach erheblichen Anfangsschwierigkeiten, die mit wiederholten Landesverweisungen bedroht waren, wurden die Kolonisten Adam Beeker und Michel Grossert mit einer Bittschrift beim K�nig von Preu�en vorstellig. Am 30.April 1743 erlie� Friedrich II. einen Spezialbefehl an die Klever Regierung und die Stadt Goch, in dem er den Pf�lzern die Ansiedlung auf der Gocher Heide genehmigte. Gleichzeitig erhielten beide Stellen die Anweisung, den Kolonisten behilflich zu sein. Damit war das Siedlungswerk endg�ltig gesichert. Nach �berwindung der ersten Elendsjahre folgte in den n�chsten drei Jahrzehnten ein derartiger Emigrantenstrom, dass die Kolonistenstellen auf der Heide bald vergeben waren. Um 1770 lebten �ber 100 Pf�lzerfamilien mit 568 Personen auf der Gocher Heide, die man seit 1749 Pfalzdorf nannte. Aus Landmangel setzte f�r die nachwachsenden Generationen die erste Auswanderungswelle ein. Sie erfolgte nach B�nnighardt, K�nigshardt, Asperheide und Ostfriesland. Bei Aurich entstanden die Orte Plaggenburg, Neu-Pfalzdorf und Dietrichsfeld.
I'm only translating the last part. It deals with Palatine Germans leaving the Hunsr�ck region planning to sail to America in 1741. However, the Dutch would not let them pass through on the Rhein to Rotterdam. So Friedrich II granted them land on the heath between Goch and Kleve to settle. "By 1770, over 100 Palatine families totaling 568 persons were living on the heath which had been dubbed "Pfalzdorf" in 1749. Due to lack of land, the next generations emigrated from this location to other areas. The first wave went to B�nnighardt, K�nigshardt, Asperheide and Ostfriesland (East Friesia). Near Aurich the settlements of Plaggenburg, Neu-Pfalzdorf and Dietrichsfeld grew up."
I'm guessing this "Dietrichsfeld" is your Diederichfeld. Interesting that it was a relatively new colony of Palatine descendants. Perhaps your Walter family traces back to the Palatine region.
Will keep looking as time allows.
--Gary
Carol,
I located the parish office (Pfarramt) for Dietrichsfeld and emailed the pastor there. He was kind enough to email me back within 24 hours:
"Lieber Herr Myer,
leider konnte ich f�r keine dieser Angaben Belege finden. Es ist keine Taufe
zu dem von Ihnen genannten Zeitpunkt in unseren B�chern, die Abschriften der
Auricher Kirchenb�cher sind, eingetragen. Dietrichsfeld ist kein Kirchort,
er geh�rt hier zur Kirche in Plaggenburg. Pastoren sind f�r den Bezirk
Dietrichsfeld erst seit 1904 t�tig, der Ort ist auch erst nach 1830
entstanden.
Die Namen Walter und Rodewald sind allerdings in unserer Gemeinde vertreten.
Mit freundlichem Gru�"
Translation:
"Unfortunately, I was not able to find any documentation for the data you gave me (I mentioned only the birth/baptism of Henrietta in 1843 and the fact that Henrietta's grandfather was supposed to have been pastor in that area earlier around 1820 or so). There is no baptism (for Henrietta) for that time period in our books, and the transcriptions from the Aurich churchbooks are included. Dietrichsfeld is not an independent parish but belongs to the church here in Plaggenburg (where this pastor officiates). Pastors first became active in Dietrichsfeld in 1904, and the community didn't come into existence until after 1830.
But the names 'Walter' and 'Rodewald' are represented in our parish.
With cordial greetings,"
Will keep you posted if I find out more.
--Gary
Carol,
Good work from Gary there! However, it does look to me like the
Mormons have more than one set of records for Aurich, so that if the record
is not in one place, it could be in another. There must have been more than
one church in Aurich at that time. The map I have shows several churches in
Aurich now. Do you have a map of the area?
Barbara
I am very new to immigrant research. The man I am researching is a relatively
recent immigrant compared to others I have researched. All of my personal ancestors
were in the United States prior to the Revolutionary War in 1776 and I have lots of
help in researching them. The man I am researching is one of my former husband's
ancestors and I am on my own in researching him. Except for one man, I have found
no one else involved in research on this family and I know more than he does.
The man I am researching reported his place of birth on the 1860 and 1870 U.S.
censuses as Hanover [sic]. In 1880, two of his sons gave his place of birth as
"Baden." Would this information be of help in finding his actual birth place and
possibly how he got to the U.S? The reported date of immigration to the U.S. was
1855.
Margaret McCleskey, Texas
Dear Margaret,
If your emigrant ancestor was in fact from Baden near Achim we
shoould find him in the 1852 census over here. After we are just
about to prepare the census of the Baden area for printing (see the
bottom of this mail and our homepage), I would be able to check
the name for Baden and the sourrounding villages at our census
database.
After I have this area right "on my desk" this would be for free for
you and should enable you to verify if this Baden was meant in fact.
Best greetings from Bremen, Germany,
Jens
Jens Mueller-Koppe
Historical Research Services (HRS)
www.hist.de
If you can help me, I would be ever so grateful. The information that I
have is sketchy. Almost all of it came from census records in the U.S.
Henry (might be Heinrich) Hattendorf, born abt 1822. The date of birth
is based on his reported age on the 1860 census.
Wife: Leonora (or Elinore) maiden name unknown, possibly Hattendorf,
born 28 February 1819. Date of birth is from a grave marker.
Son, Conrad, born September 1849
There were three more children, but they were born in the U.S.
Margaret McCleskey, Arlington, Texas, USA
hrs@hist.de wrote:
Hi Margaret,
I just checked the census and have to send out nehative results.
Heinrich Hattendorf and his wife Leonora are neither listed in the
1852 census of Baden nor in any nearby town or village.
I found no Hattendorf at all, only a widower and inn keeper
Christoph Andeas Hattorf (57 y.) in Achim No. 100 with his
daughter Betti (30 y.) and Johann (25 y.). I would not exclude that
Hattendorf and Hattorf are spelling variations of one and the same
name, but have to state that there is no indication at all that this
family is connected to yours.
Exept the Baden near Achim there is no Baden in Northern
Germany, only the former principality of Baden in Southwest
Germany and the town of Baden-Baden in the federal state of
Baden-Württemberg.
I would say that a North German orgin of the family is probable
after you have Hannover as the region (Kingdom) of orgin and after
the familyname should orginally be derived from the village
Hattendorf (about 40 kilometers southwest of Hanover, belonging to
the community of Auetal today) or the village Hattendorf five
kilometers northeast of Alsfeld, Hessia.
I know that all this does not help too much and that Baden is the
only point to start to find Heinrich Hattendorf. It would of course be
possible that he was indeed born in Baden in or about 1822 and left
the area later on. but this seems to be inprobable and I would not
bee too optimistic based on the negative result for the whole Amt
(district) Achim in 1852.
Best greetings from Bremen, Germany,
Jens
Jens Mueller-Koppe
Historical Research Services (HRS)
www.hist.de
Thank you so very much for checking. I think that I am going to stop on
this family. If someone else wants to take up where I left off, maybe
they will find something.
Margaret
hrs@hist.de wrote:
Hi Margaret,
there is still a little chance to find HATTENDOFs in Hannover. I�ll
keep looking for "Henry etc."
Klaus aus Deizisau
Since you at THINKING about QUITTING on this Hattendorf Line,
when you have the time, you may wish to check the archives for the
IL-COOK-SCHAUMBURG-L@rootsweb.com list..
As I have mentioned before, we have HATTENDORF in this township since apx
1848's...
They, I believe, were from Schaumburg Lippe area.
This may or may not help you.but it is a different lead..
Also, check this site..
http://www.karensgen.com/
On it you will find many entries. not just for Karen's direct family
members, but many surnames from the area..
It is WORTH the effort to check.
that is, before you TOTALLY QUIT!
valentine
I really do appreciate your interest and help.
Margaret
Vahlbruch wrote:
Dear Fr. Mauro,
You sent me this note quite a while ago. Thank you. I think I wrote to you about those names before I really did much study if any. And I still study.
Would it be ok if I shared your info?
Do you know if any of your Meyers listed below may have had connections in St. Louis, Missouri, U.S.A.?
I wonder if perhaps also Southern, Illinois?
And perhaps Cincinatti, OH? and perhaps even Indiana?
I put * beside name I beliveI recognize from St. Louis, Mo. and vacinity.
I put ??? beside name I think I recogonize.
P.S. In my Lewandowski line there was a priest in the family.
Fr. teophil PUdlowski. Holy Orders 1898.
Warmest regards,
Barbie-lew
St. Louis, Mo.