Joseph D�RR, geb. Dez. 1825 oder Jan. 1826 in Kitzingen am Main, war am
20.08.1838 Sch�ler der 2. Klasse der Kitzinger Lateinschule und wanderte
(wann?) nach den USA aus. Zeitlich der n�chste bekannte Punkt ist der
04.02.1855, als das Zollamt Kitzingen eine Sendung Druckst�cke zur F�lschung
von Banknoten von ihm an seinen Bruder Johann Baptist D�rr abfertigt (der
damit etwa 150 - 200.000 Gulden druckte!!). Als Absenderadresse ist bekannt:
Joseph Duerr, watchmaker in New Frankfort near Philadelphia. Im Census 1860
wird er erw�hnt mit der Adresse Philadelphia Ward 23 Precinct 7, Frankfort
Post Office, Philadelphia County.
Das Stadtarchiv Kitzingen hat nix �ber Joseph D�rr, im Staatsarchiv habe ich
es noch nicht probiert. Ich hatte hier auf einen Zufallstreffer oder Links
f�r eine Internetrecherche in US-Einwanderungsdateien gehofft.
Meines Wissens war das Mindestalter f�r Auswanderer 21 Jahre, er kann also
fr�hestens 1846 ausgewandert sein. Wei� jemand, ob es einen US-Census vor
1860 gibt (den habe ich), dann w�re eine weitere Einschr�nkung m�glich.
1860 census of Philadelphia Ward 23 Precinct 7, Frankfort Post Office,
Philadelphia County:
Joseph Duer, age 35, watchmaker, value of real estate: $1,000, value of
personal estate: $1,000, born in Bavaria;
Annie Duer, age 25, born in Bavaria;
Lewis Duer, age 6, born in Penna.;
Albert Duer, age 2, born in Penna.;
Amelia Duer, age 1, born in Penna.;
Er konnte fr�hestens 1846 mit Erreichen des Mindestalters 21 Jahre
auswandern, 1855 wird er in USA als Lieferant der Druckst�cke erw�hnt. Sein
Sohn Lewis wurde, Kopfrechnen!, 1860-6=1854 in Pennsylvania geboren, ergo
war er 1854 schon eingewandert. Mit einen census 1850 k�nnte ich sein
Einwanderungsjahr noch weiter eingrenzen.
Ob er seine Frau Annie, im 1870er census Anna (Familienname dort Duerr)
genannt, in D oder USA gefunden und geheiratet hat, wei� ich nicht.
Hello from Kentucky,
If you are lucky, the individual you are searching for will still be alive and appear on the 1900 U.S. Census. That Census has the Month as well as the year of birth.
I have got a lot mails with attached documents directly. Terribble to read
how good german names are made a muddle of them in English language (Duerr,
Doerr, Durr, Dere,... with one or two "r"). In the moment I have the
impression that I shoud have a look to all immigrants name beginning with a
"D" :-((
Maybe interesting for all reading this thread a list of Links I looked for
immigration in the last days:
Of course https://www.familysearch.org/ to. But there I have a problem.
Internet Explorer 7 from Microsoft do not work prober with this new Link of
familysearch, you must use Internet Explorer 8 only. But Internet Explorer 8
do not work proper on my PC with Google Books therefor I
have not installed IE 8.
My actual meaning is: all in all I think Jospeh went to USA in/after 1846
(age 21). He was an unentempted single (I can not find any marriage in
Germany and his mother died as he was 6 and father died he was 15.
Emigration papers are none in Kitzingen. Maybe because of he was an orphan
since he was 15 he lived at grandparents im Bergtheim or Sommerach, both in
Bavaria). Naturalization Record from 1848 looks like his, but would be nice
to know the report totally because a lot of "D�rr" written in different way
are listed in this time. He married Anna / Annie / Emma before 1854 (birth
of his first child) and after 1850 (1850 census he was single named Dere).
He lived 04. Febr. 1855 in Philadelphia (adress as he has sent the printing
block for counterfeit money and got 1.100 Gulden).
My Great Great Grandfather was Johann Adam Seibert who was from Hosbach, Bavaria. He arrived in the U.S. in the 1840s. I found he had purchased property in a local area in the late 1840s but I could not find him in the 1850 census. I finally resorted to searching the census for that area page by page. I eventually found his family on the census. They had his name entered as Adam Seward. The wife and children were all correct so I know I found the correct census entry. How they turned Seibert into Seward I do not know. He also had a brother named Valentine Seibert and he is shown on many records including the census as Faldine or Faldu Seibert. My suspicion is that many of the census takers were of English descent and had a hard time understanding the German language or the English language spoken with a deep German accent.
Interesting in that Johann Adam and Valentine's grandfather was from a nearby town called Oberbessenbach and his name was Heinrick Lorenz Se_u_bert. He had a total of 4 wives and about 17 children. Some of the children changed their name to Seibert and others kept Seubert. I do not know why they did that. There are descendants still living in the area of Hosbach and Oberbessenbach that still use both names.
Because of anti-German feelings because of the Big War in 1814-1818, some German families in the U.S. changed their names to sound less German. One of my ancestor lines is like that, changing from Stoecklin to Sticklen. I suppose Sticklen sounded less German. All of these factors complicate our genealogical research.
An excellent source for free information can often be found on RootsWeb.
