DNA - National Geographic Haplogroups and which genes are passed down several generations

hannover-l
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Dear Lady Bonita: The more I read on the DNA, the more I get confused. Most of my ancestors are from the Kingdom of Hannover, and once here in the USA, one of the males supposedly married a native American Indian woman (let's call this generation 1).

They had a son (generation 2), who had a son (generation 3), who had my mother (generation 4 - and she only had sisters), and then me, the daughter (generation 5).

If I understand the passing of the genes correctly, in order for me to prove that the wife in generation 1 was truly a native American Indian, I would have to locate a living male brother from generation 3, OR a son from that brother. Is this correct?

I can locate someone, but I want to make sure this living individual would have the American Indian's genes before I ask him to give me some "spit".

Thanks for all of the knowledge you share on this message board.

Robin Sjoerdsma
Sarasota, FL

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Robin:

Genetically speaking, you would need a direct female descendant from the
American Indian woman... or if she had a brother, who you could find a
direct male descendant in the brother's line. This might be a sample of how
mixed it can become.

To simplify, think this way -- Men pass to boys, Woman pass to girls almost
unaltered through ALL descendant generations. Unfortunately, Men pass to
girls (one generation) and Mothers pass to sons (one generation). The next
generation is replaced by the spouse's genes. The ONLY genes that stay true
are Father to Son, and Mother to Daughter.

Gen 1) German male -- American Indian Female

Gen 2m son) - German male and American Indian Female genes
*Gen 2f dau) - German male and American Indian Female codes
Gen 2m son married Irish woman
Gen 2f dau married British man

Gen 3-2m son) - German Male and Irish woman genes
Gen 3-2m dau) - German Male and Irish Woman genes

*Gen 3-2f son) - British Male and American Indian genes
*Gen 3-2f dau) - British Male and American Indian genes

Gen 3-2m son married Spanish woman
Gen 3-2m dau married Russian man
Gen 3-2f son married Japan woman
*Gen 3-2f dau married China man

Only the women with "*" will have American Indian FEMALE (mtDNA)genes AND
pass them to their daughters.

I don't know if you have checked the American Indiana rolls .. Dawes Rolls
.. and I am sorry I don't remember the other. Basically, it was a census of
anyone supposedly having American Indian blood. I have been told that
because American Indians were looked down on during that period, that many
people (if they claimed the American Blood at all) probably reduced the
actual percentage .. say 1/2 to 1/4.

I also know that if the American Indian was 'living as a white person' they
usually were denied .. so check the rolls of the 'accepted' and 'denied'
applications.

Wow, I hope I have not confused you more. The best way to see this is via a
chart. There should be some good charts on the DNA testing sights that I
have recommended in the past messages.

Bonita

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Hi Robin,

1) You would have to find a descendant of the native American woman's
brother (definitive).

2) A descendant of a female child of the German & native American couple
would tell you from where your maternal ancestors originated.

3) You could do a deep ancestry test that would tell you what percentage of
native American blood that you had. This last one would not point to any
one ancestor in particular.

Bobbi