Die Familie Munk, Monk, Munck, Monck, etc

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Guten Tag, Liste!

Bitte, vergeben sie meinen Fehlern auf Deutsch, das ich kan nicht viel Deutsch schreiben.
Ich will es untern auf English schreiben.

Ich suche nach mein gr. gr. vater, Hiram D. Monk, das var in 1 janviar 1.843 auf Hanover,
Deutschland gebaren. Er hat in 1856 zu Woodford, Illinois, USA gegehen.

Sein vater var Dierck Munck, bei 1823 auf Hanover gebaren. Ich weiss nicht der Name
seines muter.

Hiram var mit Gretja Margaret Conrad getrauen im 15-IX-1865 in Fairbury Illinois, USA.
Gretja var in 20-X-1848 auf Hanover gebaren. Ich weiss nicht seinen Eltern.

Ich habe in der "Family Tree Maker: Passenger and immigration Lists Index, 1500s - 1900s
(2002)" gesucht, und ich habe nicht Hiram D. Monk gefinden. veder Monch noch Monck
noch Monk noch Muhch noch Munck noch Munk noch Mahncke. Auchnicht sein vater
Dierck.

Aber ich habe im "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" eine "G. Conrad" gefinden: sie
hat in 1864 von Bremen zu New York gekomen. Aber G. Conrad in 1864 24 jahren gehabt;
und Gretja Conrad in 1864 var nur 16 jahren.

Bitte, schreiben sie mich ven sie kannen eines Informationen finden.

Danke sehr!
Larry Monk

Good day, Hannover List people!

I am searching for my gr-gr-grandfather, Hiram D. Monk, who was born in Hanover,
Germany, on January 1, 1843. In 1856 he immigrated to Woodford, Illinois, USA.
His father was Dierck Munck, born about 1823 in Hanover, Germany. I do not know
the name of his mother.

Hiram was married on September 15, 1865 in Fairbury, Illinois, USA to Gretja Margaret
Conrad, who was born on October 20, 1848 in Hanover, Ostfriesland, Germany. I do
not know her parents' names.

I looked in "Family Tree Maker: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s - 1900s,
(2002 edition)" for Hiram D. Monk, and found nothing. Nor did I find anything under
Monch, or Monck, or Monk, or Munch, or Munck, or Munk, or Mahncke.

I did find "G. Conrad", who came from Bremen to New York in 1864. However, in 1864
G. Conrad was 24, and Gretja Conrad would have been 16.

Please write me if you can find any information.

Thank you very much,
Larry Monk

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Dear larry Monk,

did you lokk alos for M�NCH and M�NK with the umlaut "oe". The translationof monk
will be M�nch, M�nk seems to be a word-building just out of both traditions, here
perhaps inspired by the "niederdeutsche" language. I found in town of Hannover no
MONK, but three M�NK in 1995 and 10 M�NCH. Give me a mail in case of interest in
these adresses of 1995. CONRAD is given then and there about 100 times in the
telephone-book. The address of the Hannover Kichenbuchamt had been several times
on the list last time, say if you need it for a query of birth entries in town of
Hannover.

Sincerely Hans Peter Albers

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Hi Larry,
    If you have done a search on Rootsweb, you will find your Hiram married
to Gretja Conrad. Gretja's parents and her birthplace (or rather her
parents' is in Moorhausen Hannover.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jlnoell&id=I3870

You might check with the person who posted that information.

Barbara Stewart

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Thanks, Barbara. That was my son. We're now trying to trace the family line
back into Germany, so we have something valid to go find when we visit Hannover
next May.

Larry

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The place could be Moorhausen as a part of the community Schortens, abou 8 miles westerly from Wilhelmshaven, close to the town Jever (do you know Jever Beer?). In Schortens you can find some Conrad/Conrads addresses and also Mank, Mönck, Münck. But Schortens is located in "Jever-Land", close to Ostfriesland.

In Ostfriesland (more to west) we have two Moorhusen (-husen low-german, -hausen high-german language).
One as part of Südbrookmerland: 17 Conrads, 1 Mank, 1 Münk
The other as part of Westoverledingen: 1 Conrad, 4 Munk

Check www.teleauskunft.de

Werner

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Gutten Tag, Hans Peter!

Thank you so much for your suggestion. I am interested in the 1995 addresses of the Moench
and Moenk addresses. I will try to contact them. (I already have the addresses of Hans
Mo"nch and W. Mo"nch.)

The FTW Immigration List does not contain any Hiram Moench or Moenk in 1856 or any other
date. An "H. Moench" arrived in New York in 1870. Several Heinrich Moench's arrived in
1751 or 1868. A Heinrike Karoline Moench arrived in 1856. Two Moenk's arrived in 1866.
A Heinrich Moenck arrived in New York in 1851. Are there other first names that Hiram could be confused with?

Hiram's wife was Gretja Margaret Conrad, b. October 20, 1848 in "Hanover, Ostfriesland,
Germany." So I think Werner Honkamp's suggestion is a good one to follow: Schortens.
So if you could also send me some of the Monk-lich addresses I'll try contacting them
also.

Thanks so much,
Larry

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Larry Monk schrieb:

Gutten Tag, Hans Peter!

Thank you so much for your suggestion. I am interested in the 1995 addresses
of the Moench
and Moenk addresses. I will try to contact them. (I already have the
addresses of Hans Mo"nch and W. Mo"nch.)

Are you sure, you wish them all ? That will be totally some hundreds, if not
crossing the thousand line. It is possible to do and create a list as an e-mail
addenda of this largeness, but I would propose starting with those in the places
Morrh(a)usen and if you think it still possible town of Hannover. One might be
otherwise easily drowned by the masses of persons and adresses of the same name.
But it is just your decision and you might have all of them. Just tell me your
choice. To explain the difference: Hannover as a town is in the largeness of
about 500.000 people, Hannover as a country or kingdom about 7.500.000 people,
the possible M�nch-list would contain all M�NCH out of 80.000.000 people. It
might me perhaps in your case of greater possibility for success struggling
through the Moorh(a)usen parish books and there CONRAD and M�NCH/MONK entries to
find the latter place of origin, or contacting the bearers of your names there.
Hope I did not missunderstand you.

Sincerely Hans Peter Albers

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Gutten Tag, Hans Peter!

Thank you for your response. I certainly do not want thousands, at least
now!

I'd like to start with "struggling through the Moorhausen parish books" to find
the Mo"nk-lich and Conrad names. How do I do this? Can you be of help?

Thanks,
Larry

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Hi,

    If you go to the German telephone book: http://www.telefonbuch.de/ you
can get a number of addresses. If you enter Conrad and Moorhusen or -hausen
you will find some names with addresses and obviously phone numbers. I
think that since some records on Concrads shows Moorhusen in Ostfriesland,
then you can eliminate all the others. I think the one in Schortens is in
the northwest, but technically it is not in Ostfriesland, but rather in
Oldenburg "kingdom" . That is not to say there aren't any Conrads there,
but probably not the village your Conrads come from. As far as the name of
Monk/Munck is concerned, I don't get any returns on a search of the
Moorhusens. But a general search will find them in many areas of Germany.

    As to church records, you can go to http://www.hist.de/KB-hannover.htm
and if you scroll down to Ostfriesland you will see the list of Evangelical
churches and what records they have. That is a researcher website and they
will do the research for you, if you like. But I still contend that the
Mormons have many of those films and if you are near a center, that is a
cheaper way to view church records yourself. The problem is determining
which town holds the records for each Moorhusen. I had suggested Leer for
one which has records from 1601-1874. Someone must know a way to find out
which village holds Moorhusen records. Hans Peter?

Amen,
Barbara Stewart

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Barbara is right, you should check Moorhusen in Ostfriesland.

The village Moorhusen as a part of the modern community Südbrokmerland has a lutheran church since 1900, called Münkeboe-Moorhusen, about 8 miles westerly from the town Aurich.
Before it was a part of the parish (Kirchengemeinde) Engerhafe. The church in Engerhafe exists since 1260.
See also this website:

http://suedbrookmerland.ostfriesland-vier.de/index.php?pageId=150

Therfore you must check the lutheran church register of Engerhafe.
See also this website:

http://www.hist.de/yaurich.htm

Good luck,
Werner Honkomp

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Larry Monk schrieb:

Gutten Tag, Hans Peter!

Thank you for your response. I certainly do not want thousands, at least
now!

I'd like to start with "struggling through the Moorhausen parish books" to
find
the Mo"nk-lich and Conrad names. How do I do this? Can you be of help?

Thanks, Larry

Dear Mr. Larry Monk,

always try to be of some help, what sometimes works and sometimes not. But let's
start with the different Moorha(u)sen. Barabara Stewart and Werneralready gave
hints, I simply join. But there is more:

The Ortsverzeichnis Post from 1991 lists up:

- Moorhausen Post Burwinkel = W-2887 Elsfleth = now : 26931 Elsfleth
- Moorhausen Post Frankenberg, Kr.s Osterholz = W 2804 = now 28865 Lilienthal
- Moorhausen Post Langendamm, Krs. Friesl = W-2930 Varel = now 26316 Varel
- Moorhausen Post Scharringhausen = W-2839 = 27245 Kirchdorf b.Sulingen
- Moorhausen Post Sillenstede = W-2948 Schortens = 26419 Schortens

- Moorhusen, Wilster =W-2213 Moorhusen = 25554
- Moorhusen Post Ihrhove = W-2957 Westoverledingen = 26810 Westoverledingen
- Moorhusen, Gem.Kollmar Post Neuendorf b.Elmshorn = W-2201 = 25377 Kollmar
- Moorhusen Post M�nkeboe = W-2963 S�dbrookmerland = 26624 S�dbrookmerland
- Moorhusen, Gem. Neuendorf b.Elmshorn = W 2200 = 25335 Neuendorf b.Elmshorn

Most of this places are meanwhile out of the telephone-book and postcode-book,
because of beinng subsummarized to greater places. For understanding: After the
place is given the Postofficeplace by which this Moorh(a)usen is or was served,
after the first = is given the old postcode nr., after the second = the new
postcode nr. after 1993 and the place to which it is integrated now. Having the
latter postcodenr we can sort out: To the former kingdom of hannover belonged
those places starting the five digit numbers with 26..., 27..., 21..., 29... and
some of the 28... .

In the race remain the five Moorausen and the two Moorhusen Post Ihhove and
Moorhusen Post M�nkeboe:

M�nch, Conrad etc.

Moorhausen = 26931 Elsfleth:
no Conrad
three M�nnich
Ev.Kirchengemeinde, 0berrege 17, 26931 Elsfleth

Moorhausen = 28865 Lilienthal

Conrad Fahrzeugbau GmbH, Birhenweg 2, 28865 Lilienthal
Mock, G�nther, L�ninghauser Str. 16, 28865 Lilienthal 04792 7904

Ev. Kirchengemeinde, 28865 Lilienthal

Moorhausen = 26316 Varel
Conrad, Jochen, D�sternstr. 6, 26316 Varel, 04451 85392
Conrad, J�rgen Oberstrohe, L�hkenskamp 18, 26316 Varel, 04451 82559
Conrad, Manfred, Im Winkel 24, 26316 Varel, 04451 2387
two Conrads more there
M�nch, Eberhard,Rahlingerstr.11, 26316 Varel,
ten M�nnich more there

Ev-Lutherische Kirche, Schlo�platz 3, 26316 Varel = Lutheran Church
Catholic Church and some free Lutheran Church more are given

Moorhausen = 27245 Kirchdorf b. Sulingen

no Conrad
no M�nch or similar

Evangelische Kirchengemeinde, 27245 Kirchdorf

Moorhausen = 26419 Schortens

Conrad, Dietrich, Kreuzweg 18, 26419 Schortens, tel. 04461 83207
Conrad, Dirk ..., Johann Gerriets-Str.27, 26419 Schortens, tel.04423 6338
Conrad, Erich u.Anke, Johann Gerriets-Str. 20, 26419 Schotens, tel.04423 6394
Conrad, Erna, Buschweg 6a, 26419 Schortens, tel. 04423 7274
Conrad, Hans, Hollekuhl 7, 26419 Schortens, tel. 04461 26419
Conrad, Helmut, Lawayweg 8, 26419 Schortens, tel.04423 6265
Conrad, Robert, Marienholzer Weg 3, 26419 Schortens, tel. 04423 6219
Conrad, Rudolf, Nadorster Str. 58, 26419 Schortens, tel. 04423 6114
five more Conrads given
M�nck, Horst Accum, Geestweg 9, 26419 Schortens, 04423 7494
one M�nnich Juwelry shop is given

Evangelische Kirchengemeinde, 26419 Schortens

Moorhusen = 26810 Westoverledingen

Conrad R., tel. 04961 5785
one more Conrads
no M�nch
Evangelische Kirchengemeinde, Denkmalstr. 8, 26810 Westoverledingen, 04955 5221

Moorhusen = 26624 S�dbrookmerland
no Conrad
twenty Conrads
Evangelische Kirche Moorhusen-M�nkeboe, 26624 S�dbrookmerland, tel.04942 4502

In all cases of parish-books the given adresses of churches should know where
their books are and possibilities to study them. As Moorhausen = Schortens is the
most probably place,one should know that the cities Jever and Wilhemshaven are
very near. In former times people from Moorhausen should have used the church in
Sillenstede and should be found that way in the parish books of this place. You
can see the actual adresses and numbers under www.telefonbuch.de looking under
the place name behind the new postcodenrs.

Best wishes and good success Hans Peter Albers

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Thanks Barbara. I've found the Mormon center nearby, and I just haven't
gotten there yet. Next week.

Larry

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I have received naturalization papers that are possibly for my gr gr great
grandfather, Heinrich HEISER. He arrived in Philadelphia in August 1819, was
born in Germany and emigrated from *urceg or *urcig (?town) with the
asterisk possibly representing the letter "Z". There does not appear to be
marks above the letter "u", so I do not believe it is umlaut.

What I need to determine is what is the accurate name of this town and is it
in the Kingdom of Hannover. I know from the 1850 census showing his son,
also named Heinrich, that they were from Hannover. If it is, then I have
crossed a > 10 year brick wall. Can anyone help me determine the name of
this town? And is it in what used to Kingdom of Hannover?

Phyllis
Wisconsin

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Phyllis Dearborn schrieb:

I have received naturalization papers that are possibly for my gr gr great
grandfather, Heinrich HEISER. He arrived in Philadelphia in August 1819, was
born in Germany and emigrated from *urceg or *urcig (?town) with the
asterisk possibly representing the letter "Z". There does not appear to be
marks above the letter "u", so I do not believe it is umlaut.

What I need to determine is what is the accurate name of this town and is it
in the Kingdom of Hannover. I know from the 1850 census showing his son,
also named Heinrich, that they were from Hannover. If it is, then I have
crossed a > 10 year brick wall. Can anyone help me determine the name of
this town? And is it in what used to Kingdom of Hannover?

Phyllis
Wisconsin

Found only place, which might fit and has a living Heiser, Hans-Joachim outside
kgd. Hannover area in 06780 Z�RBIG. Could you make a scan of the writing and send
it over ? Hans Peter Albers

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Hi Phyllis,
    In my attempt to find something on Heiser, I found your name everywhere!
So I imagine you have checked all the obvious sites--but you might try this
one, if you haven't already:
    http://www.ahnenlotse.de/index.html
     You just put in the surname in the search box and that will lead to
pages where there are many surnames listed. You need to look through the
lists for each researcher to find your surname. Then click on the
researcher's name and it will lead to his/her webpage, or at least an email
address. I found 10 listed for the name Heiser. It's just another place to
look!
Good luck,
Barbara Stewart

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Barbara, thanks for your suggestion. I will followup with surname search
there. Phyllis