Wie könnte man sich das "TOTALE DURCHEINANDER" und die vorgenommenen
"VORNAMENVERÄNDERUNGEN" überhaupt erklären ???
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Es geht um die Kinder von
Johannes Matthias Friderici
* 1803 in Moritzberg, + 1906 in Philadelphia (103 Jahre Alt).
Klavierbauer in Hamburg, 1834 Bürger ebd., um 1846 ausgewandert nach USA.
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Im Taufregister (1840 - 1841) der Hamburger Kirche St. Michaelis (Bestand
des Hamburger Staatsarchivs) werden seine ersten zwei Kinder aufgeführt als:
1. Maria, Mädchen, * 1838, März 18., Morg. 6 Uhr
und
2. Elisabeth, Mädchen, * 1840, März 28., Morg. 1 Uhr.
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Im Taufregister (1844 - 1845) der Hamburger Kirche St. Michaelis (Bestand
des Hamburger Staatsarchivs) werden seine ersten drei Kinder mit geänderten,
d.h. mit anderen Vornamen (!) mit den Geburts- und Taufdaten aufgeführt als:
1. Maria Elisabeth, Mädchen, * 18. März 1838, Abends 6 Uhr, ~ 30. April 1845
2. Lydia Margaretha, Mädchen, * 28. März 1840, 1 Uhr, ~ 30. April 1845
3. Johannes Friedrich, Knabe, * 25. Jan. 1843, ~ 30. April 1845.
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Es ist nicht bekannt, warum in den zwei Taufregistern die Vornamenänderungen
vorgenommen wurden. Genau so unerklärlich ist es, warum der Sohn 'Johannes
Friedrich' nach der Auswanderung mit dem Vater nach Philadelphia sich in USA
'Charles Clayton' Friderici nannte.
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Wer könnte sich hiervon ein Reim machen ?
Wie könnte man sich das erklären ?
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Jeder Hinweis ist von Interesse
Herzliche Grüsse aus Santiago de Chile
Georg Friederici
It happened, my forefather was born Joh. Franz Josef he became Joh.
Henricus Herm. I have also come across others who had a different first
name written in the church baptism books and then in the property tax
records they are different (sometimes it will mention also known as) or the
name written in the marriage books, sometimes it is just one of the first
names but sometimes the complete multible first names will be different.
What the reason is, who knows maybe the orginial entry was written wrong by
the priest, maybe it was written right but the parents ended up calling
their child differently in everyday life and the child ended up using that
name. And at their comfirmation around age 7 or 12 the child also took on
a different name. Anna Marie Schmitz
Dear Anna Marie,
thanks a lot for your input. Of course, we can find a lot of samples, but
it's not easy to understand why this changes appears.
'Johannes Friedrich' born in Hamburg received in Philadelphia as child the
names 'Charles Clayton' Friderici !!!
Kind regards and best wishes
Georg
That's really way out there! My forefather was born Joh. Franz Josef
Wulbeck gnt. Schmies in 1798 Germany and when he went to Holland became
Joh. Henricus Herm. Schmitz thank goodness their are several doctuments
showing his date and placeof birth ( a small town with only 315 inhabitants
where he was born )and his parents names.including his mother's maiden name,
and copies of their death cert. (which were transcribed and added to the
files, when he was drafted, and when he married 2X, in everyday life he went
by Herman Smits Smits is the dutch variant of Schmitz=Schmies and at his
birth his uncle Herman Wulbeck was a wit so maybe that's were it came from.
But in all official papers he was JHH Schmitz , my forefather had a younger
brother (2 yrs. younger) who was Franz Josef, so maybe he was called Herman
from a young age, several of his brothers also replaced a first name but
that was only 1 of the 3 first names they had. It is also not a case of
them not being able to read and write ,as far back to at least my ancestor
born in 1724 that I know of for sure, could read and write, not being able
to was many a time the reason for differant name or spelling, and of course
you had nicknames. Now I heard that in Germany that the confirmation chosen
name was often used from then on, but that is usally only one name.
Sometimes searching for your ancestor is like a detective story, putting all
the littlle puzzel pieces together to find the answer and quite a bit of
luck. Anna Marie