City named Babber?

Hi Lee,
I am sure you are talking about Rabber, in old German script the two
letters look a lot alike. It is a little north of Buer. This fits me
locating the family name.
Erika

Lee schrieb:

Erika;
Thanks for the note. I am researching my ggf Ernst Heinrich B�scher (b.
1837 - 38)and ggm Marie Eleonore Huge (b. 26 Dec 1840) who left Germany via
Bremen in Sept 1864 and arrived New York 7 Oct 8164 final destination
Cleveland Ohio. They were married when they left Germany. They are
Lutheran. I am looking for their hometown. Until recently I only knew my
ggf name. Afew weeks ago I got Marie's maiden name from church records in
Cleveland from the their daughter, Magdalena Marie Eleonore B�scher.

Now I have both grandparents names so the searching may be a little easier.
The ship list with the17 Huges list Rabber. I have no idea id I am related
to those Huge's but I did find several B�scher's and Huge's in Bad Essen. I
think I am looking in the right area of Germany.

I have the microfilm rented for the Lutheran Church at Bad Essen.I do not
find Ernst or Marie from looking at their birthdates of 1837 - 1840. The
church book was very readable and had an index so I don't hink I missed
them. I have just ordered the film for Barkhausen and it will take a few
weeks.

Do you live in Germany in this general area? Maybe I should see if there is
a film for Rabber. I suppose the thing I need to tie the two families
together is their marriage information. Is Rabber very large?

Regards,
Lee

Greetings;
A friend sent me some information about possible relatives living in the
Hanover area. Can someone here try to help me figure out where these are in
the region. -

1. The birthplace of Clamor Adolf Roth Sr. b1799-1892 gives place as
Wittlage Heithoefen Provinz Hanover Germany.
2. Others as Hauswinner Ohnsbrueck Hannover, Koenigreich.
3. Her ggrandfather Henry Obrock given as Amt. Wittlage Hannover. Her
ggrandmother as Rodinghausen ?

Some I recognize as Osnabr�ck, Kingdom of Hanover but what about Heithoefen,
Hauswinner, Amt. Wittlage and Rodinghausen?

Thank you,
Lee

Hi Lee,

Some if not all of your problems would be solved if you obtained a detailed
German Atlas that would show the smaller towns and villages. I myself own
several -- the best one I have was printed at a scale of about 2.5 miles per
inch. I would recommend that anyone interested in genealogy try to get an
atlas of the region where their families lived that has a scale of at least
5 miles per inch.

The village of Wittlage is located about 15 miles east of the city of
Osnabr�ck, apparently a mile or so north and east of the larger town of Bad
Essen. The abbreviation "Amt." in front of Wittlage means that Wittlage was
the location of the local government offices. The village of Heith�fen is
located about 5 miles northeast of Wittlage. I could not find a village
named Hauswinner in the atlas index, but there is a village named "Wimmer"
which is located about 2 miles east of Wittlage and 1.5 miles south of
Heith�fen. There is no place named Rodinghausen in the index, but there is
a town named R�dinghausen. R�dinghausen is located about 10 miles
south-southeast of Wittlage.

I wish you luck and success in your research.

Fred BUCK
Cincinnati, Ohio

Hi Lee,
I am back from my vacation and just read your mail, I can second what Fred
Buck wrote, I believe he is right in everything.
By the way, I found a picture of a " Gut Wimmer", meaning this was an
estate of an aristocrat, a collection of a few houses which after 1816
belonged to the family von dem Bussche -Ippenburg, who also had and still
have some small castles near Wittlage. The picture is a sketch done by a
local artist, the place is also called "the Mueggenburg", I just thought
that this might be referring to the reference "Haus Wimmer" which you
gave.(Just a guess though)

Erika

Hi Melode,

My German Atlas of choice is the ADAC Maxi Atlas which was published in
1995/1996. ADAC is the German automobile association similar to AAA in the
U.S. The 1995 version of the Maxi Atlas was printed at a scale of 150000:1,
which is roughly 2.5 miles per inch. It shows most villages with
populations of 100 people or more. I have been able to find all but one of
my ancestral villages in the atlas -- the one I could not find, Vorhorn bei
Elm just northeast of Bremerv�rde, is just a cross-roads with 2-3 farms.
Luckily I purchased a Kreis Stade map during my last trip to Germany which
shows Vorhorn.

ADAC no longer prints an 150000:1 atlas for Germany, but does print a
200000:1 Atlas which should be very good.

The Euro Atlas map for Germany (scale 300000:1) is also a good atlas and is
more readily available in U.S. bookstores. I use the Euro Atlas for Poland
when researching the part of my family which was from Posen.

Best Regards,

Fred BUCK
Cincinnati, Ohio

Hi Fred,

Perhaps you could share with us the information about your best
German Atlas--title, publisher, date of publication, etc. Even if it
is out of print, we might be able to find it on one of the used book
sites.

Thanks, Melode

Hi Lee,

Some if not all of your problems would be solved if you obtained a detailed
German Atlas that would show the smaller towns and villages. I myself own
several -- the best one I have was printed at a scale of about 2.5 miles

per

inch. I would recommend that anyone interested in genealogy try to get an
atlas of the region where their families lived that has a scale of at least
5 miles per inch.

....

Fred BUCK
Cincinnati, Ohio

From: "Lee" <kayak@execpc.com>
To: <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 1:38 AM
Subject: [HN] town name help

> Greetings;
> A friend sent me some information about possible relatives living in

the

> Hanover area. Can someone here try to help me figure out where these

are

All; Mapquest is also very good at locating small communities.