Christiane Dorothea HOFFMANN, Norden, 1821-1877

Hello,

I'm looking for the parents and family of my great-great-grandmother:
            Christiane Dorothea HOFFMANN
            b.August 14, 1821 in Norden, Hannover
            d.January 31, 1877 in Sheboygan, Wisconsin

She married around 1846-1849 Andreas Christoph HARTMANN b.1820 in Veckenstedt bei Wernigerode, Sachsen-Anhalt. The story is they met and married on the ship when they immigrated. I have not been able to find the immigration record as yet.

There are a number of microfilmed church records, Reformed, Catholic, and Mennonite at LDS for Norden, but there are no HOFFMANNs mentioned in any of them. I've checked them all at least twice. I know she went to the Reformed Church in Wisconsin. I also checked the one microfilm on civil registration records for Norden, even though the only available dates were from 1809-1814.

Might anyone be researching the HOFFMANN family from this area? Or might anyone have any suggestions?

I was told Christiane came from a "well-to-do" family and she brought a lot of beautiful linens and silverware with her. Her second, third and fourth sons were named Frank, Henry (Heinrich) and Karl, names not found in her husband's family.

I would appreciate any comments, suggestions, help. Thank you so much.

Bonnie Hartmann
Laguna Beach, California, USA

Hello Bonnie,
     It looks as though you have been thorough in your search. Have you
tried this webpage for the immigration ship?

    http://www.immigrantships.net/

     Also, there are several Hoffmanns in the German Telephone book in
Norden. There probably are several Hoffmanns everywhere! Anyway, you can
check on this site:

    http://www.telefonbuch.de/

     Sometimes a phone call or letter can lead to something helpful. But
with that common name, it is more difficult.
     
     Do you have what you need on Andreas Christoph Hartmann? There are a
couple of researchers (with email addresses) who have the Hartmann name in
Veckenstedt if you run a search on this page:

   http://meta.genealogy.net/index.jsp

     You could run a few google.com searches and perhaps something will turn
up!
   Sorry, but that is all I can find,

Barbara Stewart

Thank you so much, Barbara, for taking the time to send this info. This
gives me some more avenues to try.

Yes, I have a lot of info on my Andreas Christoph Hartmann and his
ancestors, but http://meta.genealogy.net/index.jsp gives me the name of
someone I have not talked with. Again, thank you so much. In the short
time I have been on this list, I notice that everyone is so helpful!

Bonnie Hartmann
Laguna Beach, California

Bonnie Hartmann schrieb:

I'm looking for the parents and family of my great-great-grandmother:
            Christiane Dorothea HOFFMANN
            b.August 14, 1821 in Norden, Hannover
            d.January 31, 1877 in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
She married around 1846-1849 Andreas Christoph HARTMANN b.1820 in Veckenstedt
bei Wernigerode, Sachsen-Anhalt. The story is they met and married on the
ship when they immigrated. I have not been able to find the immigration
record as yet.
There are a number of microfilmed church records, Reformed, Catholic, and
Mennonite at LDS for Norden, but there are no HOFFMANNs mentioned in any of
them. I've checked them all at least twice.

Hello Mrs. Bonnie Hartmann,

as the most people, probably over 80 per cent, in this region are and have been
of Lutherian religion and these parish-books are according to your mail not among
the microfilmed ones, I would held it for most probably, that a letter to the
local parish with the given birth-date and place will show easily results by a
low amount on research-costs. Here the parish adress I could find:

                     Evangelisch-Lutherische Kirchengemeinde
                     26506 Norden / Ostfriesland

A look into the telefone-book shows for Norden over 20 entries HOFFMANN, so there
must have been also in the past a greaterly extended family of this name. You
will find actual bearers of this name for getting in contact to ask for already
done researches of that family under www.telefonbuch.de.

Good Luck and a happy new year 2004 Hans Peter Albers

Hans Peter -

Thank you for taking the time to write! Actually, the parish books for
Norden have been microfilmed. Those are the ones I checked and rechecked,
but they don't have any Hoffmanns listed, which I thought seemed strange.
The names are almost completely Dutch names, very few German ones.

I will try the www.telefonbuch.de and write to the listed HOFFMANN entries.
That seems to be about the only thing left to try.

Does anyone know if German researchers know about/use:
        http://genforum.genealogy.com/
or is it mostly an American site? If not, is there a similar site more
well-known amongst most German researchers?
Perhaps http://meta.genealogy.net/index.jsp would be more used?

Thank you all again!
Bonnie Hartmann
Laguna Beach, California

Bonnie Hartmann schrieb:

Hans Peter -

Thank you for taking the time to write! Actually, the parish books for
Norden have been microfilmed. Those are the ones I checked and rechecked,
but they don't have any Hoffmanns listed, which I thought seemed strange.
The names are almost completely Dutch names, very few German ones.

Sorry for doubting about your having checked the right parish-books. When there
are about 20 HOFFMANN families or singles today, it will be very, very uncommon,
if there haven't been some in the time of your research. There is another Norden
in Germany, which is today part of Hamm, a town in Westfalia, but also there are
tons of HOFFMANN. Maybe you really caught a Dutch Norden instae of the right one.
On the other hand the other parishes of different religion you listed up are
still there today. So you really should make sure, if this form Lutheran religi-
on, which is the greatest one, was microfilmed. By the way, the normal case of
cost for a official copy of the birth entry without research, because the right
place, name and date is given are about 15,- Euro. If you don't want to risk
more, one might tell this limit. Sometimes the directly way to the sources is the
best one.
And there are still not all parish-book filmed, not even here from the church
sides, because it is problem of costs to make the dates safe this way.

Best wishes again Hans Peter Albers

P.S.: Checking the library of www.familysearch.org the only right one book should
be that of the "Evangelische Kirche Norden" for which they have a "Kirchenbuch-
duplikat", which means as much as a copy, but simply for the years 1828 to 1874.