<pharmaxx@charter.net> schrieb:
Hi Gale and List
The thread was getting a bit long so a new reply.
Julius' son was baptised in New Orleans with only the birthplace of Julius being noted. Other than the child Wilhelm the names of his father, Julius Wilhelm Burgdorf born in Heildesheim in Hanover, and his mother Maria nee Kirschein born in Berlin are on the certificate. The officiating minister is Hermann Perpeet, and one witness, Mr. Edward Barke. The date in 19 March 1870.
I was aware of the larger town Burgdorf but only recently found out that there is a smaller village by the same name. I have searched neither.
On the Wolfbuttel list I found several Burgdorfs none of which seemed to fit. Other listers have also taken a look. But there were several Burgdorf surnames that had no given names that I did not pursue.
His birth year range was determined by the age on his emigration application and from his death certificate. From the emigration info he would have been born in 1826, from his death certificate he would have been born in 1825.
Max
Hi Max,
PERPEET is a name mainly spread in the region Mettmann, Düsseldorf and around, means North Rhine Westfalia and a bit far off Hildesheim. KIRSCHEIN maybe a bit wrong transformed, especially in Berlin the given name is KIRSTEIN, also given is the name KIRSCHEN. Your KIRSCHEIN sounds a bit mixed up out of the both other names, but one should never say, the name hasn't been in existing once. It will be of course senseful, to look also after the two other, if nothing is decisable about an writing error of KIRSCHEIN.
The research for BURGDORF in places Burgdorf is interesting because of possible same heri-tage, but this process of name-building took place hundred of years more early and a hit in 19th century will be only of some accidence. The probability of a hit in Hannover would be not much less. So I would concentrate further on the given places Hildesheim and Baddecken-stedt.
Maybe the profession will lead you once a bit further. If he immigrated at the age of about 33 he should have been documented in local guilt lists, if he had learned a profession. 1825 is also already the time when first adressbooks were published. Hildesheim might have had one before 1850. Unfortunately there are no civil registrations of birth, death and marriage before 1875, so the parish books are in general the only source, except unusual cases as immigration, imprisonement, citizenship oath, an official position as teacher, priest or in the administen papers, tax rolls or a landcontract about the circumstances of getting rid of the elder landlordownership were made. In other words you are not yet through with all researches, but could need the help of a local researcher for your places, who is accustomed to the town archives and its documents. The local town archives should be able to make such contact. It is the point where things might get expensive. So try first ...
Place-of-origin and place-of-birth-identity: not the same, but in most cases, especially of the poorer people identical. Immigration was the first journey at all for lots of people. Those out of a bit more wealthy families were of course often much more mobile by profession, special skills were needed one time here and one time there. Which place name was noted in ship lists might also rely on that what the traveller understood by the question, where he is from ? Some might have thought last town of residence others the place of birth.
Anyway best wishes for the further research Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel