Site Administrator
I know this type of posting is frowned upon but I ask your indulgence this one time. After this I promise to back off completely.
Barabara and Rita:
Barb, I readily accept your apopogy and thank you for requesting help for me from the list. Your comments were a tad abrasive but pretty much on target. I am old, 81 years old, and I would be the first to admit that I am not as sharp as I was 30 years ago. Part of the reason for my multiple questions is related to my change of servers and email address. I lost some files along with other computer problems during the change over. I apologize for the repetitious posting - I simply thought I would reach a new generation of poster that might have Burgdorf information.
And don't be sad. Genealogy-wise I have had some successes (Burgdorf excepted). I found my mother's ancestors (Dauenhauer) in Dahn, Germany back to the 1400's. I also traced my wife's paternal grandmother's family (Richard) back to Port Royal in Nova Scotia and to France ca 1650. Plus, my personal life is full doing church volunteer service, travel and of course genealogy research.
At my age my window of opportunity to travel is closing and I'm desparately trying to find the right Burgdorf. Pending my results I plan to go to Germany and to visit Dauenhauer and Burgdorf families.
To all posters I ask for tolerance and to cut a little slack for those of us who are not as advanced as others.
To the Group,
I have written Max personally and I want to say a few words here. I
do think it is wise to post our research names and places periodically,
since there are always new people on the list. Max is no exception.
Hildesheim is a larger city and to find the correct Burgdorf family is quite
a challenge. So--please keep the name Julius Burgdorf in mind. Information
that is not on the internet one day may be there the next!
Barbara
Since you are responding to a listing which was already made, I think your e-mail was very appropriate. As for me, was very glad to see you respond, rather than going off the list and letting it get the best of you.
Yes, you are right continued similar listings can be boring, but if you have been following the list recently, you may have seen a listing by, I believe: Cindy about Meyers. She indicated that she got almost no response to her first listing. During the last 3 or 4 days, she must have received a couple of dozen responses. The whole thing is that if someone becomes bored, they now where the DELETE button is.
I understand your frustration about not being able to trace down a line of ancestors. On my mother's side, I know who my grandfather was, Joseph Ulysses Grant Lee, born in Greene or Christian county Missouri. The stork must have brought him, because, I have never found any reference about his father. I guess the Ulysses Grant middle names were disclaimers to distance them from the southern Lees.
On the other hand, my Grandmother, Joseph's wife was simple. I have that line going back to Thomas Pruett B 1616 Salisbury, Wiltshire Bedford England d 1660 Charles City York, Va, USA.
Persistence pays.
Good luck,
Gale
PS, if you ever run across that elusive Lee from Missouri, let me know.
At my age my window of opportunity to travel is closing and I'm desparately trying to find the right Burgdorf. Pending my results I plan to go to Germany and to visit Dauenhauer and Burgdorf families.
Max,
For 40 years I wanted to go to Germany and visit the villages of my ancestors. Fortunately, it took that long for it to happen, because it took 40 years before I was able to identify the village of each each of my ancestors. Admittedly, I wasn't searching during all those 40 years. I started dreaming young, and I had to raise my 5 kids before I could get back into serious genealogy.
You may not have 40 years left to travel, but I wish you all the best in your searching, and I hope you, too, get to visit the towns of your ancestors. For me it really was a dream come true.
Mona
Photos of our trip are on web site, URL shown below.
Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916�1950 (online)
Lists
Julius W. Bergdorff
Age unknown
Certificate # 0012287
Date of death - 22 April 1921
City - Litchfield
County - Montgomery
Date Filed- 21 April 1923
Researchers who are unable to visit the Illinois State Archives Reference Room may direct requests for death certificates after 1915 to the Illinois Department of Public Health.
From: "Cactus Flower" <barbie8674@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
To: hannover-l@genealogy.net
Subject: [HN] I found a death cert record for Julius Bergdorff.
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:22:11 -0600
Dear Max,
Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916�1950 (online)
Lists
Julius W. Bergdorff
Age unknown
Certificate # 0012287
Date of death - 22 April 1921
City - Litchfield
County - Montgomery
Date Filed- 21 April 1923- ERROR!!!!! My bad. Should be
23 April 1921.
Researchers who are unable to visit the Illinois State Archives Reference Room may direct requests for death certificates after 1915 to the Illinois Department of Public Health.
BERGDORFF JULIUS W M/W UNK 0012287 1921-04-22 MONTGOMERY LITCHFIELD 21-04-23
Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916�1950
From: Max Burgdorf <pharmaxx@charter.net>
Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
To: <hannover-l@genealogy.net>
Subject: [HN] Burgdorf
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:15:22 -0500
Site Administrator
I know this type of posting is frowned upon but I ask your indulgence this one time. After this I promise to back off completely.
Barabara and Rita:
Barb, I readily accept your apopogy and thank you for requesting help for me from the list. Your comments were a tad abrasive but pretty much on target. I am old, 81 years old, and I would be the first to admit that I am not as sharp as I was 30 years ago. Part of the reason for my multiple questions is related to my change of servers and email address. I lost some files along with other computer problems during the change over. I apologize for the repetitious posting - I simply thought I would reach a new generation of poster that might have Burgdorf information.
And don't be sad. Genealogy-wise I have had some successes (Burgdorf excepted). I found my mother's ancestors (Dauenhauer) in Dahn, Germany back to the 1400's. I also traced my wife's paternal grandmother's family (Richard) back to Port Royal in Nova Scotia and to France ca 1650. Plus, my personal life is full doing church volunteer service, travel and of course genealogy research.
At my age my window of opportunity to travel is closing and I'm desparately trying to find the right Burgdorf. Pending my results I plan to go to Germany and to visit Dauenhauer and Burgdorf families.
To all posters I ask for tolerance and to cut a little slack for those of us who are not as advanced as others.
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That would be good news for Max, except for the date of 1849. He has
evidence from a shiplist that Julius emigrated from Hildesheim in 1860.
That Julius Burgdorf on the Wolfenbüttel list comes from Amt Salder.
I'm glad you could figure out the place. Closest place I could figure was Braunswieg [spelling]..
Darn..I was thinking he said 1850.
But then...Illinois death cert for Julius W. Bergdorff...1920's would be a stretch from 1850.
But then again...I have an Irish grandma born circa 1847-1849 who died in 1940...and she was a widow in 1880 and listed her job...washing and ironing..
I think that Julius Burgdorf in the statarchiv is under the same file number as a Conrad and Sophie Burgdorf and a couple others.
I think someone on list mentoned a Conrad in Cape Girardeau, Mo. If is isn't Max's family..the family who that Julius Burgdorf belongs to..I'm thinking..almost betting had ties in Missouri and Illinois.