I don't know what that book is, nor do I know that any of our family
lived in
that area, but no one else can find anything about them - so...
Any ANHALT, or KOHLER, KOEHLER info that's in there would be nice to
have.
THanks,
Julie 
Maria und Jared Jobs wrote:
Hello Vera,
Finally I got the "Ortsippenbuch" of Pabstorf. But it seems that somebody
else helped you already. If you still want to know details soon, let me know
before I return it to the library. It is a great book if your ancestors come
from there. In alphabetical order every person who lived there is to be
found sorted by family (between 1641-1875).Jared
email;internet:unicorn@island.net
note:God Bless the Little Ones
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Hallo Jared,
das ist ja eine kleine Sensation! Danke!! Das ist mir v�llig neu, da� die
nach Pabstorf gezogen sind. Die Infos decken sich (fast) mit denen, die ich
auch habe: Im Kantorbuch Vogelsdorf fand ich:
Johann Gottlieb Harling, Kuhhirte und (ohne Vornamen) geb. Eitel. Sohn
Heinrich Christoph, geb. 10.6.1802. In Aushebungslisten fand ich die Eltern,
Kinder: Johann Gottlieb, geb. 9.9.1812, gest. 1839 und Heinrich Christoph,
geb. 10.1.1822. Nun mu� ich nur noch rauskriegen, wie die Eltern der
Dorothee Eitel waren. Das ist garantiert meine Familie!
Was bedeutet: 1625?
Du hattest geschrieben, da� du dir das Buch aus der Bibliothek ausgeliehen
hast. Demnach gibt es das auch in der Fernleihe? Wei�t du mehr dar�ber?
Ich habe hier einen Auszug, welche B�cher es unter anderem gibt:
Region 153, Sachsen-Anhalt, Regierungsbezirk Magdeburg:
Abbenrode, Badingen, Ber�el, Blankenese, B�hne, Deersheim, Ditfurt (5x),
Gerwisch, Gestien, G�ddeckenrode, Hoppenstedt, L�ttgenrode, Osterrode,
Osterwieck, Pabstorf (2x), Petersmark, Rhoden, Rimbeck, Rohrsheim (2x),
Schauen, Stapelburg, St�tterlingen, S�derode, Uhrsleben, Veckenstedt,
Wasserleben, Westerburg (2x), W�leperode, Zilly.
Diese B�cher liegen in der Zentralstelle f�r ?? - habe vergessen, wie diese
Zentrale in Leipzig hei�t. Wei� jemand, ob diese B�cher auch in den
Bibliotheken erh�ltlich sind? Oder was die kosten?
Ich bin an Ber�el, Osterwieck, Rohrsheim, Schauen, Wasserleben, Westerburg
interessiert, neuerdings auch an Pabstorf.
Viele Gr�sse - Karin
PS: Sorry, I haven't the time to translate. I have to hurry up ...
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Hi all,
I got these responses:
Sorry but neither of these URL's work....
It appeard that both of the Url address's could be incorrect, I couln't
access either one
I tried the two "URL's" and no luck.
Now I really believe my English is too poor to participate on this list ...
Or doesn't anybody read a posting down to it's end? Is everybody just
clicking at the first URL in a message he finds?
What I meant is: The Degener pages at Waldenfont ARE DOWN, DELETED, ERASED,
... THEY HAD BEEN REMOVED !
Please contact Waldenfont by e-mail to get more info.
Juergen
"Fritsche, Juergen" wrote:
>
> On June 26, I posted the following:
>
> "Don't know if you already know: the Verlag Degener & Co., Germany's
leading
> genealogical publishing house, has an official U.S. distributor in
> Massachusetts and is online at URL
> http://www.waldenfont.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/degener/index.htm. The
> address is mailto:degener@waldenfont.com. The Catalog is at
> http://www.waldenfont.com/degener/katalog.htm."
>
> As some listers stated to receive error messages when trying to visit
these
> URLs, I tried myself to contact Degener at Waldenfont some days ago. I
had
> to learn they removed the Degener pages.
>
> Anyone interested in info on where Degener Verlag is now, may want to
ask
> Waldenfont (e-mail address: custservice@waldenfont.com).
>
> Hope this would be of some interest.
>
> Juergen
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Hello Vera,
I guess that you did a really good research already. Because you seem to
know everything of the book. Though for some families it goes further back:
Nr. 0201, page 18:
BENDLER, Heinrich Andreas, Arbeitsmann in Aderstedt, * Aderstedt 13.Oct1845,
E: (parents): Kothsass (means landworker) Andreas BENDLER in Aderstedt and
Marie Anne MOETEFIND; oo 19 Nov 1871 Marie Anne Dorothee MUELLER (2352)
another BENDLER coms from Eilsdorf, in the 1600th so.
another who might be related: from Gross Dedeleben
Though, no death date either
children:
1. +* (m) probably male ++ (seems to mean burial) 26.Sep.1872, maybe the
child was deadborn or died
immediately
2. +* (mZw) Zw means Zwilling = twin, ++ 8.May.1874
3.Heinrich Julius, * (Zw) 8.May.1874
4. Marie Friederike, *4.Aug.1875
5.Anne Rebecka Dorothea *13.Jul.1877
6. Heinrich Andreas *5.Jun1881, +17.Aug 1881
2352 MUELLER, Carl Friedrich Wwr (Widower), ?24. Jan1781, place not given
either, + 7 Feb 1847, Schuhmachermeister oo 22Mar 1841 Anna Rebecka EGGERT,
divorced STOLZE (0741)
child: Marie Anne Dorothee, *27Jul1843 when no other place is given and no
?, Pabstorf is meant => (2368)
(0201)
no more children
2368: MUELLER, Marie Anne Dorothee (2352)
children, born out of wedlock:
1. Friederike Dorothee *18.Jul1866
2. Valentin Heinrich Matthias *11.Mar1868
no father given
3055 STOLZE, Andreas Gottfried (3053), + 5.Jan 1871, Dienstknech(servant),
Brinksitzer und Topfbinder oo
6Jun 1830 Anne Rebecka EGGERS (0741),Dienstmagd
3056 STOLZE; Andreas Heinrich, born out od wedlock 6.Oct.1832, (seems to be
the reason of the divorce,)
Mother: Anne Rebecka STOLZE born EGGERS, Ehefrau (wife) v.
Dienstknecht Andreas Gottfried
STOLZE in Eilsdorf => (3055) goes on with the STOLZEs in the
book
Bkb: Die Mutter lebt von ihrem Ehemann getrennt. Zum Vater des
Kindes hat sich der hiesige
Dienstknecht Christian RAPMUND (2624) angegeben, den die Mutter
auch fuer den Vater anerkennt und
heiraten will. So C. RAPMUND is the father, him and the mother
want to marry.
2624: RAPMUND, Christian, *err (means errechnet = calculated) ? 1806, +
2.Dec.1833, Dienstknecht =>
(3056) So they didn�t marry, maybe he died to early.
0741 EGGERS, Heinrich Andreas (0737), +11. Jan 1834, Dienstknecht oo 22 Nov
1798 Anna Clara Elisabeth
VOGES (3214)
children: 1. Anne Regine *11.Aug1799 => (1985)
2. Anne Friederike Elisabeth * 25.Dec 1802 => (3001)
3. Friedrich Heinrich * 29 Apr 1805 (0746)
4. Anne Rebecka *14.Dec1810 => (0747), (3055), (3056),
(2352)
to 0746: Bkb: Todesursache war Saeuferwahnsinn. Er wurde begraben am 7. Apr
mit Musik und in Begleitung des Kriegervereins . (so he was an alcoholic,
and died of its consequences) Sohn Carl Valentin wurde mit zerbrochenem
Schaedel auf dem Feld gefunden (was found on a field with a broken sculb)
Difficult circumstances, I�am sorry,
It goes on and on now�with the genealogy, always children included. If you
want to know more about the family, I would be reasonable to buy the book. I
don�t know though how much you researched already. Maybe I wrote down
information you already know. Hopefully not though. Took me some time.
Jared