Looking thru the archives I saw a email regarding lookups in the 1852 Hannover Census. If anybody on this list has access and is willing to do a lookup, I would greatly appreciate a lookup of the HUGE family of the Rabber/Barkhausen area.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
I haven't heard that such a census exists. How does one get access
to that? I would love to have a look up done also for the family
of Johann Hinrich Ludewig KLUG in the town of Vissh�vede. Basically
any KLUG family in the area of Visselh�vede or Verden would be of
interest.
Pam
Dear Mark, Pam and Max,
For general information about the 1852 census in Hannover please
go to the website Startseite and click on
the link "Information about the Census Project".
My wife Regina has started to edit some of the census lists for
selected Aemter (county-like districts) and the project will keep on
going ahead.
The LDS has filmed most of the orginal census lists (Urlisten) at the
State Archive Hannover, but only a very few or none in the other
Niedersachen State Archives (Stade, Aurich, Osnabrueck) and in
city and district (Kreis) archives (where we can find some orginal
cencus lists as well).
For the Rabber/Barkhausen area I unfortunately have some bad
news. The census holdings in the Osnabrueck State Archive have
much more gaps as the census holdings of the other Niedersachen
State Archives. Based on our information the 1852 census lists of
the responsible Amt for Rabber/Barkhausen (Amt Wittlage) are not
preserved.
For Verden (city), the Amt Verden and the Amt Rotenburg (which
includes Visselhoevede) the news are much better. The 1852
census of both of these Aemter are preserved at the State Archive
Stade (not filmed by the LDS), but not yet edited in the edition.hist
edition. For the city of Verden die city archive in Verden is
responsible.
I hope this helps a bit.
Best greetings from Bremen, Germany,
Jens
Jens Mueller-Koppe
HISTORICAL RESEARCH SERVICES (HRS), Germany
Schanzendorfer Str. 9b
D-28307 Bremen
Germany
-> www.hist.de <-
Jens,
I think you sent this to me by mistake??
Kenny
Dear Jens,
I am posting yet another time. I am not sure how the message
delivery works here and I must have sent to the wrong person before.
My question is if you are saying that the Verden-Visselh�vede area
would NOT be on film with LDS and that they are only available at
state archives? I that is the case then how would I obtain
information?
>For Verden (city), the Amt Verden and the Amt Rotenburg (which
>includes Visselhoevede) the news are much better. The 1852
>census of both of these Aemter are preserved at the State Archive
>Stade (not filmed by the LDS), but not yet edited in the edition.hist
>edition. For the city of Verden die city archive in Verden is
>responsible
Thanks, Pam
A few additional words about the 1852 census and Visselhoevede,
Amt Rotenburg.
First of all I want to say that the hints of Andrea Korbabka and
Bernd are very important for anyone who dies research on
BVisselhoevede families. The OFB is a complilation of all parish
registers data, ordered by families. Parish register research should
have always the first priority when it comes to research in Germany!
It you do not find the family name you are searching for in the parish
registers (or in the OFB) this might mean that the information in your
source (that the family lived in Visselhoevede) is wrong, or it might
mean that they only lived in that town for a short, limited period so
that no baptisms, marriages and burials were recorded for them.
Even if there are parish registers a census as the 1852 one of
course has it`s importance as a genealogical source. But it is just a
spotlight on the inhabitants who lived in each town and village on
December 3, 1852.
My question is if you are saying that the Verden-Visselhövede area
would NOT be on film with LDS and that they are only available at
state archives? I that is the case then how would I obtain
information?
Yes, that`s exactely what I wanted to say. The census lists of the
responsible Amt Rotenburg are at the "Niedersaesisches
Staatsarchiv Stade". In order to do research on these census lists
you have to visit the archive in Stade at the river Elbe. Another
possibility would be to ask someone to do on your behalf or to send
a written request to the Stade archive. The capacities of the archive
to do more extensive research (the census lists do not have any
name indexes) are limited, though.
Best greetings,
Jens
Jens Mueller-Koppe
HISTORICAL RESEARCH SERVICES (HRS), Germany
Schanzendorfer Str. 9b
D-28307 Bremen
Germany
-> www.hist.de <-
Dear Jens,
This is all new to me, so I should explain that YES my KLUG ancestors
were found in church records by a genealogist. What I am
questioning is why they don't appear in the OFB? I wonder how the
OFB listings came to be compiled? Where these done by volunteer
entries, and is this why only some appear?
I do find the OFB listing very interesting. Of course I don't have
an understanding of all the place names so I am a bit lost except for
the obvious ones.
Thanks for your help,
Pam